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Author Message David G. Axt, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt Post Number: 1975 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2022 - 04:18 pm:    And what exactly is it? :-) David G. Axt, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 2300 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2022 - 04:44 pm:    Have you tried to find it? After all, Goop is a wellness and lifestyle brand and company founded by actress Gwyneth Paltrow. https://goop.com/ It might even be something offered by the company. But if not, it could also be a problem, since it IS a company name. Brian Payne Senior Member Username: brian_payne Post Number: 284 Registered: 01-2014 Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2022 - 05:43 pm:    And that’s why I insist on pre-weitten, pre-coordinated keynotes. ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 1536 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2022 - 05:44 pm:    Please tell me this is a joke. My best guess, if it's real, is a PMMA liquid flashing like https://documents.siplast.com/Data%20Sheet/siplast_parapro_flashing_resin_cpds.pdf Please smack them. Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 2301 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2022 - 06:32 pm:    Definitely smack them. Using the word "Goop" is like using any other company name. And I don't think a product from Goop would work in this application. ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 1537 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2022 - 08:06 pm:    Sad. All they had to do was change goop to flashing and they'd have been fine. Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 2302 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2022 - 08:21 pm:    But now they could be sued. David G. Axt, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt Post Number: 1976 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2022 - 08:31 pm:    I figure the contractor could just smear a little hand cleaner on it and call it good. https://goophandcleaner.com/ Ken, I copied this detail, as a found it, from a current drawing set. David G. Axt, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 1538 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2022 - 09:16 pm:    Even poop would have been better. Perhaps the design firm should hire lawyers to do their details and eliminate the middleman. "Pay me now or pay me later." George A. Everding, FCSI, CCS, CCCA, AIA Senior Member Username: geverding Post Number: 938 Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2022 - 10:24 pm:    Also, it's BRAKE metal, not BREAK metal. Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 2303 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 08:47 am:    Arrgghhh - I didn't even see that, and it's one of the things that's bugged me. Who is the newbie yahoo who did this drawing? Get him/her into CSI! (I'm surprised they didn't write "can't strip") Nathan Woods, RA, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: nwoods Post Number: 901 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 12:01 pm:    This mad my day. John Bunzick Senior Member Username: bunzick Post Number: 1903 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 01:59 pm:    This is the proverbial punt. Didn't know and didn't take time to figure it out. The brake metal could have a slight outward kick at the top creating a v-slot, into which sealant could be applied. I think goop is a generic term, in spite of Paltrow's company, so it would probably be okay in that respect. Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 2304 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 02:21 pm:    Never underestimate the power of an attorney, or in this case, possibly a solicitor. Loretta Sheridan Senior Member Username: leshrdn Post Number: 64 Registered: 11-2021 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 02:34 pm:    I am "nut" sure that constitutes a "liquid" but here are the test results for permeance of peanut butter: https://www.airbarrier.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Building-Professional-Report-10-06-M0027-Peanut-Butter.pdf Also, there are days I want to print out a huge banner: "IT'S BRAKE METAL!!!!!" Liz O'Sullivan Senior Member Username: liz_osullivan Post Number: 264 Registered: 10-2011 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 03:06 pm:    The whole brake metal thing - I know, I know. But I bet those among us who used to draw (or still draw) in architect's offices remember being young design professionals, wondering, asking, and usually not getting good answers, about whether it is "brake" or "brake," and what it is. I write a blog (sometimes). Every single year since 2014, this post has my most-viewed for the year: https://lizosullivanaia.com/2012/11/09/brake-metal-what-is-it/ Not everyone persists in getting answers, but some of us do. The answers just aren't always easy to find. Liz O'Sullivan Senior Member Username: liz_osullivan Post Number: 265 Registered: 10-2011 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 03:07 pm:    "Brake" or "break" I meant, above. Ha! John Bunzick Senior Member Username: bunzick Post Number: 1904 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 03:42 pm:    I am stating definitively that the correct term for folded sheet metal is "brake metal," deriving from the machine that makes the fold, a press break. Here's the wikipedia entry. Here's an interesting description by a manufacturer. Here's a random page by a manufacturer of press brakes. Drop mic. Nathan Woods, RA, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: nwoods Post Number: 905 Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 04:55 pm:    Yeah, that is clear as mud :-) Phil Kabza Senior Member Username: phil_kabza Post Number: 737 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 05:34 pm:    I learned from a Texas architect colleague that they used a considerable amount of Gleepcite in his architecture school design studio. You could trowel it on, cut it with a knife or saw, or spray it. Our colleague attended Rensselaer Polytechnic. They used a related material in their design studio called Rensselonium. Similar properties, but more suitable for northern climates. Perhaps goop is a further development of pooky? Phil Kabza FCSI CCS AIA SpecGuy Specifications Consultants www.SpecGuy.com phil@specguy.com Loretta Sheridan Senior Member Username: leshrdn Post Number: 65 Registered: 11-2021 Posted on Monday, December 05, 2022 - 05:55 pm:    Well, peanut butter is a form of "goop," though not really "liquid applied." Apparently, peanut butter when used in conjunction with a generic woven house wrap barrier and tested according to ASTM E2178-03 yields an air leakage characteristic less than 0.02 L/(s*m2) measured at an air pressure difference of 75 Pa. (The calculated flow is 0.0020 L/(s*m2) at 75 Pa) G. Wade Bevier, FCSI, CCS, LEED-AP BD+C, SCIPa, USGBC Senior Member Username: wbevier Post Number: 69 Registered: 07-2004 Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2022 - 10:05 am:    Rhetorical question When does "goop" become "pookie"? Both are generally applied the same and for the same results... George Wade Bevier, FCSI, CCS, LEED AP BD+C Arlington VA 22201 David G. Axt, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt Post Number: 1977 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2022 - 12:33 pm:    I worked in an office where the word "skookum" was thrown around a lot (but never put on drawings). I always thought it was a made up word but as it turns out it is a Chinook word for "really good stuff". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skookum David G. Axt, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC