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Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI
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Username: rliebing

Post Number: 392
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 04:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Let it be recorded in the annals of specification history that no problems existed in the specifications world on this day-- 06-06-06-- as evidenced by NO postings on 4Specs

OR

were we all spooked and hiding behind our computer towers because of the ill-significance of the numerals in the date?
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 371
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 04:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

It's the anniversary of D-Day - a much more solemn occasion. Perhaps that's why.
Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI
Senior Member
Username: rliebing

Post Number: 393
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 04:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Agreed!

Thanks you blessed D-Day vets [and all those who fought thereafter]-- women and men-- who gave all; and those still with us.

God Bless! Semper Fi!! Amen
Brett M. Wilbur CSI, CCS, AIA
Senior Member
Username: brett

Post Number: 119
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 05:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Don’t think me weird, but…

Several years ago I took a two week intensive seminar on sacred architecture with Dr. Keith Critchlow of the Prince of Wales Institute of Architecture. One of the topics was numerology; what is it and how is it embodied in art, literature and architecture.

The belief is that numbers hold vibrational and textural meaning beyond the mathematics; that each number corresponds to a certain letter of the alphabet of a given language or an action or character of physical objects. There can be many interpretations.

Numerology is embedded in language, and adds a deeper sacred meaning to the literal translation of words, especially when you look at the numerology of an entire phrase or sentence. It can add texture and depth, and sometimes hidden mystery. Many interpretations can be gleaned from a single phrase depending on translation of tone or syntax. It is like peeling an onion. Thus there is the likelihood of misinterpretation.

Getting to the point, there is a phrase in Revelations, “Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six…”

I have heard interpretations, depending on the language translation; according to Hebrew, Latin, Greek numerology, that that phrase can be interpreted several different ways numerological.

The number 666 does not necessarily refer to the beast. Some believe it refers to man; that perhaps man is the beast. It gets weirder, I won’t go into it. Just be careful out there.
Helaine K. (Holly) Robinson CSI CCS CCCA
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 241
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 05:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Now that I am aware of this thread, I am told that the number is really 616 and refers to Nero. According to a friend of mine who is a professor of NT:

"The "NUN" = "N" in Hebrew = 50. Nero is spelled either NERON or NERO in NERON KESAR or NERO KESAR (= Nero Caesar). The first from the Greek, the second from the Latin. Depending on the MS's ancestry, that accounts for the difference between 666 and 616."
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: geverding

Post Number: 170
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 05:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ok, I gotta ask... what is the number of the beast in MF04?

Did it get a new division?

More importantly, is it a work result now, and not merely a product?

Eager specifiers await the answer...
Robert W. Johnson
Senior Member
Username: bob_johnson

Post Number: 83
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 05:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

A word search of MasterFormat 2004 for "beast" comes up empty but the number 06 06 06 is open for assignment!
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 372
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 05:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Wouldn't it be "Numbering of the Beast"?
Ronald L. Geren, RA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, MAI
Senior Member
Username: specman

Post Number: 274
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 05:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I guess it depends on what you're trying to achieve:

07 21 06.66 Thermal Insulation For Hell
07 81 06.66 Applied Fireproofing For Hell
11 19 06.66 Detention Equipment For Hell
13 18 06.66 Ice Rinks For Hell (Assuming Hell freezes over)
21 13 06.66 Fire-Suppression Sprinkler Systems for Hell
23 30 06.66 HVAC Air Distribution for Hell
23 50 06.66 Central Heating Equipment for Hell
27 35 06.66 Call Management for Hell (for those devil worshippers)

And, my personal favorite...

34 00 06.66 Transportation to Hell
Helaine K. (Holly) Robinson CSI CCS CCCA
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob

Post Number: 242
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 05:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Can we use this one for the politicians?

"34 00 06.66 Transportation to Hell"
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: geverding

Post Number: 171
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 05:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

So, 34 00 06.66 is where I would specify the handbasket?
Ronald L. Geren, RA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, MAI
Senior Member
Username: specman

Post Number: 275
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 06:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Holly: Yes, but make sure you have an "Anti-Kickback" clause in the GC's - the politicians probably have their hands in the transportation system, too.

George: Definitely; it's in the guide spec.
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 346
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 07:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I sort of like

34 13 13.66 Inclined Railway Accessories"

34 13 13 is " steep inclined railway"
Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI
Senior Member
Username: rliebing

Post Number: 394
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 06:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Gosh, you guys are amazing!

From my little tickler, all of this creativity.

I now understand better how "from little acorns, mighty oaks do grow".
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: geverding

Post Number: 173
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 10:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

34 13 13.66 Inclined Railway Accessories is where we would specify "Good Intentions", of course, because we all know what paves the [Rail] Road to Hell.

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