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David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: david_axt

Post Number: 500
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 01:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I know we are not supposed to promote products on this forum....but what the heck.

If you don't have Adobe Acrobat Professional....get it. NOW!

I don't know how I worked without this product! I convert Word specs and correspondence to PDF files and send them to contractor/consultants. The advantage of a PDF files is that any system can read it. (Acrobat Reader is free on the internet.) You don't have to have Word, WordPerfect, Excel, etc. I used to send files around but people complained that they don't have the latest version of so-and-so program.

You can also redline a PDF file and send it back. I have scanned several drawings and had consultants send them back marked up.

Another feature I like is being able to combine PDF documents into one document. That way a person does not have to open 23 files all made from different programs. They have one file to open and print.

I'm sure there are more features that I am just begining to find.
Chris Grimm, RLA, CDT, MAI, CSI
Advanced Member
Username: tsugaguy

Post Number: 5
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 01:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Is that the new 7.0 version that does redlining? I haven't seen redlining in Acrobat yet, but haven't tried the new version either. Also do you and those you collaborate with need to have the pro version to use redlining feature?
Doug Brinley AIA CSI CDT CCS
Senior Member
Username: dbrinley

Post Number: 83
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 01:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We have 6.0 and it does collaborative markups, highlighting, and all sorts of stuff. We provide our clients PDFs of anything (including drawings) until they insist on Word documents.

If you talk to the CAD people, they've been printing PDFs over the network and sending them to the print houses for at least two years. We plot from PDF files. Some of our consultants can only plot from PDFs.

Fair warning - we insisted our subconsultants use Acrobat to review spec markups and they ignored us until the deadline became critical then negotiated for written markups on the basis they didn't have time to get the software running. Bozoheads. :-(
Julie Root
Senior Member
Username: julie_root

Post Number: 14
Registered: 02-2004
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 01:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Yes. We love it too! And have experienced the Bozoheads.

Also if you haven't, look into DWF Composer. It is Adobe for cad drawings. Same markup/comment note ability. My cad person just got me a markup board with a stylist. I have not tried the stylist yet, but I hear that it is a Project Architect's dream.
Anonymous
 
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 02:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

How difficult is it to encrypt the PDF files or issue the PDf files so that they can not be modified by the end user?
Doug Brinley AIA CSI CDT CCS
Senior Member
Username: dbrinley

Post Number: 84
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 02:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

PDF files are by definition 'encrypted' to everyone except the creator.

We decided to use PDFs because we were concerned we could be held responsible for edits that others make.

The reviewing functions are different; these are additional information. The creator of a PDF can accept or reject reviews.
Anonymous
 
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 05:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We have met the Bozoheads; and they are us.
Margaret G. Chewning FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: presbspec

Post Number: 62
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 05:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I was up on the adobe website looking at the products available. What is the major program difference between Professional and Standard? there is a $200 difference in cost, what are the bells and whistles available in Professional that you don't get on the Standard that would make the additional cost worth it?
Doug Brinley AIA CSI CDT CCS
Senior Member
Username: dbrinley

Post Number: 86
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 05:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html

You definately want Pro. Pro allows you to get review comments from any person who just has the free Reader version.
Phil Kabza
Senior Member
Username: phil_kabza

Post Number: 125
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 09:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We're starting to implement use of Acrobat Pro 7.0 and it looks like it could be our salvation. We're making our standard of review document delivery the bookmarked PDF that 7.0 will produce. Simply set up your project manual directory in sequence through file numbering: Word docs, Excel docs, and other PDFs, then hit the button.

We're still figuring out how to get it to use section number + section name as the bookmark labels, so that clients aren't faced with 6-digit bookmark tags that they don't understand (nor we, till we become fluent in MF04ese.)

The review comment and report functions work very well and save a lot of paper and time.
John McGrann
Senior Member
Username: jmcgrann

Post Number: 56
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, August 22, 2005 - 08:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Another vote for Adobe Pro. Works as advertised.
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wyancey

Post Number: 49
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Monday, August 22, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

"BOZOHEADS"

Why, you mad mustachio purple-hued maltworm, you!

Even the worst four-letters words are boring and predictable when used as an insult. Don't be a lazy linguist-brush up on your Shakespeare!

"Thou damned tripe-visaged rascal."
"How, now, wool-sack, what mutter you."
"I never see thy face but I think upon hell-fire."
"You scullion! You rampallian! You fustilarian! I'll tickle your catastrophe!"
"Thou art a very ragged wart."
"Viperous worm that gnaws at bowels!"
"Pernicious bloodsucker of sleeping men!"
"You are all recreants and dastards!"
"A pox of wrinkles."
"I could brain him with his lady's fan."

Shakespeare's insults by Wayne F. Hill and Cynthia J. Ottchen (Crown)
J. Peter Jordan
Senior Member
Username: jpjordan

Post Number: 115
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Monday, August 22, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I prefer "beauxau".
Dave Metzger
Senior Member
Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 127
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Monday, August 22, 2005 - 12:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

That's a good example of thinking outside the beauxau....
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: david_axt

Post Number: 502
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, August 22, 2005 - 01:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

"Brush up your Shakespeare
Start quoting him now
Brush up your Shakespeare
And the women you will wow"

-Cole Porter

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