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Robin E. Treston
Senior Member
Username: robin
Post Number: 21
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 11:06 am: |    |
I have had an architect client ask if I know anyone who can give an unbiased presentation regarding the pros and cons of various low-slope roofing types. Has anyone ever seen a good presentation of this type or know of any resources? Thanks! |
Ralph Liebing
Senior Member
Username: rliebing
Post Number: 193
Registered: 02-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 11:14 am: | |
I attended a Roof Design Conference that was put on by Carlisle-Syntec earlier this year. While they have all of the various roofing systems available, this very generic presentation was extremely helpful in assessing one system against another. The presenters were quite open and most knowledgeable. There was a great handbook passed out which goes into the whole of roof design, and discussion of all systems. As I recall the Carlilse web site has this presentation listed and provides locations where it is to be presented.
Lastly, it is my perception that there is no direct correlation, i.e., one system that is absolutely right [barring all others] for a specific project and location. Best just to know how to approach and properly utilize each type. |
Kristin C Kennedy RA CCS CSI
Senior Member
Username: kkennedy
Post Number: 8
Registered: 09-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 11:18 am: | |
You might look for someone involved in the Roof Consultants Institute (www.rci-online.org).
Try a local product rep, manufacturer, distributor or installer that offers many types of roofs and might be able to give you an unbiased opinion. |
Richard L Matteo, AIA, CSI, CCS
Senior Member
Username: rlmat
Post Number: 106
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 11:21 am: | |
Robin,
I think there may actually be one or 2 people in the Phoenix Chapter who are roofing consultants who may be able to help. The last name of Wadding comes to mind.
You might also check to see if there is a roofing contractors' association in AZ, similar to the NRCA. I know ther is one here in CA. |
Anne Whitacre, CCS CSI
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre
Post Number: 215
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 12:05 pm: | |
I agree with asking a good roofer -- the benefits and deficits of roofing systems change in various climates, and you want to specify a roof that the local installers are comfortable installing, have experience installing and who have good inspectors locally. Keep in mind that no matter what low slope system you have, a good installation will be more important than a good product installed poorly. Depending on what part of the country, and the particular Owner preference, I've had good installation and performce with multiple roofing types.
The Johns Manville roofing "class" is a pretty good rundown of the various types, pro and con. Contact your local Manville rep. |
Doug Frank FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: doug_frank_ccs
Post Number: 109
Registered: 06-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 12:20 pm: | |
Anne is absolutely right about the JM roofing class. In fact, JM will actually host an entire day-long “Bursi” (Better Understanding of Roofing Systems Institute) roofing seminar in your area at no cost. The Houston CSI chapter had them here a year or so ago and all we did was provide the venue. We actually charged a small fee for attendance and kept that money as well.
This doesn’t exactly answer the specific question about an individual’s needs but I thought it was information worth sharing. I’m sure your local JM rep could fill in the details. |
Leon Ruch, RA, CSI, CCS (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 11:59 am: | |
NCARB has two monographs on the subject that could be useful resources and would also qualify as continuing education for architects (10 and 14 HSW units respectively).
http://www.ncarb.org/publications/titles/LSRI.html
http://www.ncarb.org/publications/titles/LSRII.html
I have not seen these particular publications, but my experience with NCARB monographs is that they are generally as unbiased as is possible to find in this industry, with a fairly thorough overview of the subject matter.
I have an older copy of the Carlisle Roofing Design Conference materials, and (at least at that time) they included single ply systems only, no BUR or mod bit system information or comparisons. |
Joanne Rodriguez, CSI, CDT, LEED AP
Senior Member
Username: joanne
Post Number: 16
Registered: 09-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 05:18 am: | |
Robin,
Even though we are a manufacturer of low-slope commercial roofing materials (Tremco) we have several programs which highlight the pros and cons of roofing systems--in an unbiased manner. Of course the intent is to be presented in an unbiased manner and I believe our architectural representatives do an excellent job of this.
The majority of our "Roofing Options" program, which is AIA accredited and covers 6 different commercial systems, follows third party information contained in Dick Fricklas' low-slope roofing manual, and from Carl Cash (another leading expert in the field of commercial roofing). At one point in time we had been approached by RCI for the use of our programs.
Feel free to contact me at my email and I will get you more information, or visit the AIA website for a listing of all of our accredited programs. |
Robin Dale Rund
New member
Username: rdrund
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 12:33 pm: | |
Robin,
If you have around $900 and three days to spend, the College of Engineering at the University of Wisconsin - Madison provides an excellent continuing-ed seminar called "Low Slope Roofing Systems-Built-up, Single-Ply, Metal and Polyurethane Foam Roofs." In the past, presenters have included Dick Fricklas, Rene Dupuis, Dick Baxter and other high-profile roofing consultants.
I've seen several fine presentations by roofing manufacturers, but nothing compares to this program for range and depth of coverage. Plus, the presenters are completely independent of any one manufacturer's bias. Here's a web site with this and other related programs: http://epdweb.engr.wisc.edu/catalogs/building.lasso |
Ronald L. Geren, RA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, MAI
Senior Member
Username: specman
Post Number: 179
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 12:42 pm: | |
Although I can't comment directly on UW's roofing course, I can comment on their programs, in general. I've taken a few of their courses and they're very good.
Although most of the courses are offered in Madison (I attended one in January; this Phoenix boy won't do that again! Brrrr), some are available in other locations, such as Las Vegas. |
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wyancey
Post Number: 29
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 03:37 pm: | |
Joanne,
Please post your e-mail address.
Thanks
Wayne Yancey |
Joanne Rodriguez, CSI, CDT, LEED AP
Senior Member
Username: joanne
Post Number: 17
Registered: 09-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 10:05 am: | |
Sorry Wayne,
joanne.rodriguez@comcast.net
Thanks,
Joanne |
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