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Brian Payne
Senior Member
Username: brian_payne

Post Number: 292
Registered: 01-2014
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2023 - 03:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Anyone ever spec PVC termination bars? Besides maybe cost, what would be the benefit over stainless?
Brian Payne
Senior Member
Username: brian_payne

Post Number: 293
Registered: 01-2014
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2023 - 03:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I'm specifically thinking for thru-wall masonry conditions rather than roof or other exposed locations.
William C. Pegues
Senior Member
Username: wpegues

Post Number: 997
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Friday, February 03, 2023 - 03:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

PVC that is run above ground and exposed to sunlight can break down faster than it normally would. The ultraviolet rays from the sun can actually break down the structure of PVC material and make it brittle and breakable.
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP
Dave Metzger
Senior Member
Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 812
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2023 - 07:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

What William said. If you wouldn’t use PVC through-wall flashing due to its history of turning brittle, the use of PVC termination bars, directly exposed to UV, is equally imprudent. The only advantage I can think of for PVC as a material for termination bars is that it could be colored to match the brick—but that’s not much when balanced against long-term performance.
John Bunzick
Senior Member
Username: bunzick

Post Number: 1907
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2023 - 03:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Perhaps the thinking was in a brick cavity? There I wouldn't be concerned about UV breakdown. But, I can't imaging that PVC could be as rigid as metal, thus not holding the flashing as tightly to the substrate. Plus, some plastics have suffered from plasticizer migration over time, independent of exposure, leading to brittleness. This is more well understood by manufacturers nowadays, but it still makes me cautious.
Brian Payne
Senior Member
Username: brian_payne

Post Number: 294
Registered: 01-2014
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2023 - 05:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Yes, inside the brick cavity to attach through wall flashing was the intention. Interestingly, HB sells a plastic version, but requires the metal term bar to meet the Air Barrier Full System Warranty that they have.

That was evidence enough not to use PVC for me.
Brian E. Trimble, CDT
Senior Member
Username: brian_e_trimble_cdt

Post Number: 135
Registered: 08-2005


Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2023 - 10:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We tend to like the metal term bar since it is more rigid and won't buckle between fasteners. If the material buckles or warps, there is a higher likelihood of water getting behind the flashing, or making it more difficult to seal along the top edge.

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