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ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 1437
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 - 02:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

It appears that Parklex and Prodema have merged - https://parklexprodema.com/usa/ and in an apparent effort to differentiate themselves from everyone else they are using the brand name bakelite instead of phenolic to describe their material.

Am I missing something? It is still the same thing, right?

As an aside, I recall discussions about 10 years ago regarding concerns with certain phenolic panels at exterior conditions, including Prodema. I believe there were issues with wood grain bleaching and water absorption at edges. Does anyone have any new information about this? Any feedback good or bad?
Thanks!
James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS
Senior Member
Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 342
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 - 09:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ken, FWIW read the Wikipedia entry for Bakelite. Apparently the stuff was patented in 1909 and declared a National Historic Chemical Landmark in 1993. I suppose any copyrights to the name have expired or Parklex Prodema should be warming up their attorneys.
Older folks like me have known for a long time what Bakelite is. It's the stuff the bowls of our uncles' smelly old tobacco pipes are made of.
J. Peter Jordan
Senior Member
Username: jpjordan

Post Number: 1172
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 - 10:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I believe the old black telephones (pre-1960) were made of Bakelite. Most of the plastic stuff made before 1950 was Bakelite.

It is interesting that this manufacturer chose a "legacy" name for its product.
J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP
Rosa Cheney
Senior Member
Username: rdcaia

Post Number: 25
Registered: 07-2018
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 - 10:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I would guess that "Bakelite" sounds better to the average consumer than "phenolic formaldehyde resin plastic". ...formaldehyde having such nasty connotations.

:-)
James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS
Senior Member
Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 343
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2022 - 09:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

And the chemical name, polyoxybenzylmethylenglycolanhydride, is certainly a mouthful.
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC
Senior Member
Username: redseca2

Post Number: 703
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2022 - 03:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Movie Trivia related to Bakelite: After seeing this thread yesterday I added the film "Savage Grace" to my Amazon Prime queue.

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