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Loretta Sheridan
Advanced Member
Username: leshrdn
Post Number: 5
Registered: 11-2021
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2022 - 02:49 pm: |    |
I am looking for information about Division 01 sections for Design-Build projects. I have been looking for information for awhile, and I haven't really found anything definitive. I tried to find what DBIA had, and it wasn't much.
(I did find a thread here from 2006, that basically said to call one of the respondents.) |
Phil Kabza
Senior Member
Username: phil_kabza
Post Number: 698
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2022 - 03:38 pm: | |
There is design-build, and then there is design-build. Each project and project team seems to have its quirks. At the very least, the Architect is interested in controlling Submittals, Quality, Product Requirements, and Execution. It may be convenient for the D-B entity to have the Architect provide a full set of Division 01 sections so that they can use it to organize the administration of the project. Most CMs want us to provide a full set. We usually run it past the construction entity's project manager for comments and tweaks.
Phil Kabza FCSI CCS AIA
SpecGuy Specifications Consultants
www.SpecGuy.com
phil@specguy.com |
J. Peter Jordan
Senior Member
Username: jpjordan
Post Number: 1170
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2022 - 05:23 pm: | |
My experience is what Phil describes.
J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP
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Liz O'Sullivan
Senior Member
Username: liz_osullivan
Post Number: 262
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2022 - 05:38 pm: | |
The duties of the architect outlined in agreements for construction for design-build project delivery are often pretty different from the duties of the architect that many of us (with experience in design-bid-build and construction-manager-at-risk project delivery methods) are most familiar with. If you haven't already, definitely read the construction agreement before diving into the preparation of Division 01 specs. |
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg
Post Number: 1434
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2022 - 06:07 pm: | |
Unfortunately none of the D/B projects I've worked on ever addressed Division 01 preparation in the Agreement. All they required are "Specifications" which, by definition, includes Division 01.
It usually took a little "drilling" to find the people on the CM teams who were most impacted by Division 01 content but I almost always ended up having good meetings with team members like the CM's schedulers who got into the "weeds" when writing the requirements for the project schedule (yep, they require input from subs and vendors and want their information in a format they can plug in). If it's a LEED project expect to spend many hours working out the details on how LEED vs. Action and Informational submittals are handled and reviewed and how everything is tracked from construction waste management to IAQ to, well, everything else. Try to get them to provide whatever forms they want to use for inclusion as attachments so you can minimize written content (a picture is worth 1000 words). I can go on, but I suggest that you speak with your PM to see what they've budgeted for you to keep your CM client happy. Then explain this to them and let decide how they want to handle the extra time. |
Loretta Sheridan
Senior Member
Username: leshrdn
Post Number: 6
Registered: 11-2021
| | Posted on Monday, February 14, 2022 - 08:21 am: | |
This has been extremely helpful, (plus more or less echoes the experience I have had.)
FWIW, this is for an "example" as part of submitting for an RFQ for a job. And we are not submitting to a Design-Build entity to work with them as their design professional, but I guess to an Owner, who is going to throw a Contractor and an Architect together to provide a Design-Build project. (Which, before I started working as specification writer, were all the Design-Build projects I had worked on: "Here's my architect; here's my contractor -- you two figure everything out to build me something, Design-Build!")
So there is no contract yet (though I suspect it will be some array of AIA contracts.)
Previously, most of the design-build projects for which I have worked on the specs, every Division 01 was a little different. (And sometimes a matter of trying to hit a moving target.) But were hammered out in conjunction with the Contractor or Design Build entity who hired us a the Design Professional.
NAVFAC D-B projects were a little different -- we got the RFP (which was essentially Owner's Criteria Documents), and had to use the Division 01 that was supplied in Part 2 of the RFP, pretty much unedited.
Thanks again! |
Greta Eckhardt (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 - 01:07 pm: | |
Bear in mind that most of Division 01 is intended to spell out in more detail the provisions of the Agreement and General Conditions. Where those provisions are already adequate I expect some or all of Division 01 sections may not be needed. In my limited experience with Design/Build, we did have a single Section 010000 - General Requirements with Articles that might give a bit more detail for things like submittal requirements. With no master document, I had to write this from scratch but much of the language could be copied & pasted from standard Division 01 sections. For Design/Build, consultants might also have provided special Division 01 sections for sustainable design requirements and commissioning. |
Greta Eckhardt (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 - 08:48 am: | |
I just read the most articulate and thorough summary on this same topic in a post by Ron Geren in the Specifications Community discussion on the CSI website. If you are a CSI member, I heartily recommend that you look for it. If not, then I heartily recommend that you join CSI. |
Robert Swan, FCSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: robeswan
Post Number: 8
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2022 - 10:43 am: | |
From my limited experience with D-B, I end up rewriting some sections multiple times as the Builder finds another sub who likes "X" in lieu of "Y". Basically no substitutions. I think this is a local area misuse of the term Design-Build. |
David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA, A-SCIP, LEED AP
Senior Member
Username: davidc
Post Number: 22
Registered: 02-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2022 - 10:51 am: | |
Sounds more like Draft-Build, since the Builder is controlling the "design."
David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
Corgan Associates, Inc.
Sr. Specifier, Sr. Associate
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