Vending machine spec

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Author Message J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan Post Number: 1147 Registered: 05-2004 Posted on Monday, March 01, 2021 - 09:20 am:    Anyone have a vending machine they would like to share? J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt Post Number: 1853 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Monday, March 01, 2021 - 11:57 am:    Isn't that FF&E or provided by Owner? David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan Post Number: 1148 Registered: 05-2004 Posted on Monday, March 01, 2021 - 12:23 pm:    Apparently not in this case. J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt Post Number: 1854 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Monday, March 01, 2021 - 12:56 pm:    Doesn't the snack company own/provide the machines? David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC Margaret G. Chewning FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: presbspec Post Number: 338 Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Monday, March 01, 2021 - 01:35 pm:    I had to write a coin operated dog spa equipment spec a whiles back. If you think it would help I'll see if I still have it somewhere in the depths of my computer. James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: jsandoz Post Number: 315 Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 08:44 am:    I would approach this like a residential appliances specification noting the power and plumbing requirements and the particular required features like capacity (how many Snickers bars can it hold). The trick will be avoiding a closed specification if that is an issue. Rich Gonser Senior Member Username: rich_gonser Post Number: 158 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 10:43 am:    Can you consider a design-build vendor approach with a service contract? Who fills in the contents and otherwise maintains it? Technically, the appliance approach is probably the closest. J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan Post Number: 1149 Registered: 05-2004 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 11:10 am:    This is for a 50% submittal. I am hoping that this goes away. Meanwhile... J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: michael_chusid Post Number: 585 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 11:42 am:    Take a look at NAMA, the vending machine association. https://www.namanow.org/voice/namapac/ Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937 www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap Senior Member Username: lgoodrob Post Number: 390 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 03:48 pm:    Peter, What if we all just send you lists of our favorite candy and other treats for inclusion? I'll start: Snickers almond butter bars. - Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 2255 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 04:02 pm:    MOUNDS! Dan Helphrey (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 03:07 pm:    See UFGS Sections 11 46 00 & 11 05 40. Dan Helphrey (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 02:23 pm:    You'll want to reference NSF/ANSI 25 at a minimum. For a 50% submittal, an outline spec with that standard called out and additional information as James Sandoz suggests above should be enough. When expanding from outline to full section, look for language you can crib from Div 10 & 11 sections. Dan Helphrey Senior Member Username: dbhelphrey Post Number: 69 Registered: 12-2018 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 05:06 pm:    Can we get some Caffeine Free Coke Zero in the soda machine, please? Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC Senior Member Username: redseca2 Post Number: 693 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 06:32 pm:    The ever curious spec mind wants to know what they want vended in their vending machines. Run of the mill candy, chips and soft drinks? Or something special, perhaps all healthy vegan stuff? Be forewarned that I have seen things in sidewalk vending machines in Japan that are illegal in many US states. The most mundane will sell you a fifth of Johnny Walker red. Dan Helphrey Senior Member Username: dbhelphrey Post Number: 70 Registered: 12-2018 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 06:49 pm:    Steven, do you mean something like this? Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: michael_chusid Post Number: 586 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2021 - 09:56 pm:    If you know a vending machine manufacturer that is interested in getting specified, please send them my way and I will write the section for them. Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937 www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru Phil Babinec Senior Member Username: pbabinec Post Number: 36 Registered: 09-2004 Posted on Friday, March 19, 2021 - 05:02 pm:    Vending Machine Spec - Is that where if I put in a dollar it will give me back a spec? Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman Post Number: 1589 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Friday, March 19, 2021 - 05:21 pm:    Ah, you're confusing a vending machine spec with a spec vending machine. Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: michael_chusid Post Number: 591 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2021 - 11:26 am:    Perhaps Phil meant a spec-vending machine. Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937 www.chusid.com www.buildingproduct.guru J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan Post Number: 1150 Registered: 05-2004 Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2021 - 07:58 pm:    Never mind everyone has come to their senses and we don't need it; everyone except the contributors to this thread ;> J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP Dave Metzger Senior Member Username: davemetzger Post Number: 792 Registered: 07-2001 Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2021 - 09:38 pm:    vendi, vidi, visa. I sold, I saw, I shopped. James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: jsandoz Post Number: 317 Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Monday, March 22, 2021 - 08:27 am:    What Phil said. I am sure that is what many I have worked with believe about specifications. I feel like I should have a coin slot (credit card slot these days) in my forehead. ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 1351 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Monday, March 22, 2021 - 10:37 am:    James, behind the ear is less noticeable. Phil Kabza Senior Member Username: phil_kabza Post Number: 683 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 - 03:07 pm:    We considered vending machines a few years ago before venturing into retail franchise: Phil Kabza FCSI CCS AIA SpecGuy Specifications Consultants www.SpecGuy.com phil@specguy.com Dan Helphrey Senior Member Username: dbhelphrey Post Number: 71 Registered: 12-2018 Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 - 04:01 pm:    Do they even still make penny slots for vending machines? That's about what many of the people I work with think a section is worth... ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 1352 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 - 04:17 pm:    Aw, a penny for your thoughts. Literally. Ed Storer Senior Member Username: ed_storer Post Number: 76 Registered: 05-2009 Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 - 07:48 pm:    I would spec an allowance if the Owner really wants the vending machine in the contract. Then it's up to the Owner to pick one. Ed Storer, CSI Member Emeritus James Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: jsandoz Post Number: 318 Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 - 08:51 am:    Phil, I guess you did not run afoul of, first a Houston now Texas institution, Spec's Liquor Warehouse. It was founded in 1962 by Carroll "Spec" Jackson and his wife Carolynn. The company logo is a rabbit wearing spectacles (or specs). It is where I do the great majority of my holiday shopping for adult relatives and friends. Most stores also have an array of gourmet foods. I have to admit I become a bit offended when the fruit of my labor is diminished by being referred to as "specs" instead of specifications. I guess it is emblematic of the low regard some people seem to have for the work. They don't understand it so it must not be that important. They sure do remember my phone number when they have a question though. I don't recall ever hearing or seeing the graphic part of construction documentation referred to as "draws."