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Susan Sprague (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, April 05, 2021 - 06:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I saw in the CSI Masterformat numbers/titles that there is a Delegated Design Procedures section. Has anyone ever used this? If not, where do you cover delegated design? in the submittals?
J. Peter Jordan
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Posted on Monday, April 05, 2021 - 10:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

City of Houston has a list of items for which they use a "deferred submittal" process. These items include metal building systems, wood trusses, curtain wall systems, raised access floors, retractable bleachers, and canopies. The process is used where the engineering is done after the regular building permit is processed.

I use "delegated design" because MasterSpec uses that language, makes it easier all the way around
J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP
Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS
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Posted on Monday, April 05, 2021 - 11:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I make frequent use of Delegated Design. You can see an example in this guide spec section for lightning protection:

Michael Chusid, RA FCSI CCS 1-818-219-4937
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Ed Storer
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Posted on Monday, April 05, 2021 - 04:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I've used Delegated Design where the Contract Documents were based on proprietary material (sometimes, not identified as such").

The old saying, "more than one way to skin a cat" was applicable and things like manufactured metal stairs were such an example.

It's really a way of performance specifying, but tends to throw the performance requirements to the building code, regulations (e.g. OSHA) or a reference standard.

Then there are elements like architectural precast concrete, where the designer has very little information about the means and methods of the attachment of the precast to the structure.
Ed Storer, CSI Member Emeritus

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