Product cuts types and importance

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Author Message Tracy Van Niel, FCSI, CCS Senior Member Username: tracy_van_niel Post Number: 362 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Friday, April 25, 2025 - 10:11 am:    If this has been covered before apologies as my laptop won't let me do a search since this isn't a https site. I'm going to be part of a quality at noon brown bag coming up to talk about product cuts. I've seen everything from a 100 page installation manuals (with no redlines or choices made) to pretty picture design brochures that don't tell me anything, and everything else in-between. I definitely have my own preferences about what types of cuts are the most informative for the spec writer. The Manual of Practice isn't giving me the information I am looking for (unless I have just overlooked it) that talks about why you need them, etc. Just hoping to tap into the collective wisdom of this group for gathering my information. Thanks! Tracy L. Van Niel, FCSI, CCS David Stutzman Senior Member Username: david_stutzman Post Number: 104 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Friday, April 25, 2025 - 11:09 am:    Check Steris for some great examples. https://www.sterislifesciences.com/products Their product data sheets include checklists for the available options. This is usually a single page for very complex equipment. John Bunzick Senior Member Username: bunzick Post Number: 1942 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Friday, April 25, 2025 - 02:50 pm:    I think it would depend upon who needs the cuts and at what time in the process you are getting them. During product selection at design I would not expect installation instructions per se, though for technical products, there does need to be enough technical data to make the right choice. It just doesn't need to be step by step at that point. However, for the owner's manual at substantial completion, you may want that step by step. For finishes, the pretty pictures are only good to a point, of course. You still need the technical to know things like acceptable substrate conditions, or, say, setting methods for tile. This would be both at CD phase as well as in a submittal. Data on maintenance of finishes must be part of the owner's manual. At SD, though, much less data is likely to be needed, or even desired. No need to drown in information that must be filtered and cut down for the team or the owner. I guess to sum it up, I would get only the minimum product cut appropriate to the phase of design or construction, and that is likely to increase as the project moves along from "paper" to a building. Anon (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2025 - 11:17 am:    Perhaps a bit of a tangent, but I occasionally still run across data sheets following the Spec-Data format and it's refreshing. Colin has posted a PDF of the format to this older thread which also includes some discussion of product data sheets (note the archived portion linked at the top if you want to see the whole discussion): https://discus.4specs.com/discus/messages/4254/9412.html Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 965 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2025 - 02:43 pm:    There is website DCatalog.com you may want to visit.