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Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 2035 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - 05:14 pm: | |
A local major municipality uses 16 division format for their Div 0 and 1 spec sections. They are not willing to upgrade to the industry standard. I have briefly reviewed previous posts on 4specs defending industry standards. I need more, several years ago CSI issued a statement saying that AIA and CSI no longer recognize 16 division format, but I am unable to locate that link. I would like to include it in my discussion with the city. Any other advice would be helpful. |
David J. Wyatt, CDT Senior Member Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt
Post Number: 308 Registered: 03-2011
| Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - 05:21 pm: | |
Hello, Jerome. It might be worth mentioning that most cost estimating programs, such as R.S. Means, rely on the the most current version of MasterFormat. This would not mean much in terms of Division 01 sections, but it may help you in your plea for use of current conventions. I wish you well. |
J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan
Post Number: 1101 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - 06:24 pm: | |
City of Houston still clings to 5 digits, but permits use of the current CSI format for "technical sections." They last updated their stuff prior to MF97 so some of the sections numbers are quite old. J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP
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Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C Senior Member Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip
Post Number: 489 Registered: 02-2014
| Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 06:43 pm: | |
I have some news articles I saved in a file. Will try to post them somehow. CSI Ending Support of MasterFormat 95 on Dec 31 2009.pdf (Saved from CSI website) SpecPress April 2012 MasterSpec discontinuing MF95 this year.pdf RIP MF95 converted yet.bmp |
Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C Senior Member Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip
Post Number: 490 Registered: 02-2014
| Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 06:45 pm: | |
There is a 100 KB limit here per uploaded attachment. Each of my files exceeds the limit. I will try another way. |
Jerome J. Lazar, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 2038 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 06:51 pm: | |
Chris, just send the PDF's to me, lazarcitec@msn.com, thanks |
Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C Senior Member Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip
Post Number: 491 Registered: 02-2014
| Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 07:10 pm: | |
https://aecspecs.blogspot.com/2019/08/csi-masterformat-1995-support-ended-in.html |
Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C Senior Member Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip
Post Number: 492 Registered: 02-2014
| Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 07:31 pm: | |
Also emailed. |
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