Thermal girts, where to specify?

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Author Message David G. Axt, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt Post Number: 2037 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Monday, August 28, 2023 - 11:46 am:    In what section do you specify thermal girts (Cascadia clips, Green girts)? I have specified them in thermal insulation or fiber cement siding or metal wall siding and maybe a few other exterior cladding sections. David G. Axt, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA, A-SCIP, LEED AP Senior Member Username: davidc Post Number: 25 Registered: 02-2015 Posted on Monday, August 28, 2023 - 01:47 pm:    David, How about current MasterFormat listing of 07 05 43 - Cladding Support Systems? Then the sixth digit (or 4th pair of numbers) can be used to differentiate between thermally broken and non-thermally broken versions. David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Corgan Associates, Inc. Sr. Specifier, Sr. Associate Jeffrey Potter Senior Member Username: jpotter Post Number: 47 Registered: 02-2017 Posted on Monday, August 28, 2023 - 03:57 pm:    I usually specified in the same section as the cladding because the AHJ I would work with viewed them as a system, so it was easy to show and get approved having it all under the same section. Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap Senior Member Username: lgoodrob Post Number: 425 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Monday, August 28, 2023 - 04:22 pm:    David, We have been putting them in 077700 Wall Cladding Support Systems. It's easier to manage when your design team changes cladding systems or has more than one type. - Anne Whitacre (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2023 - 01:59 pm:    I have a wall cladding support section in a new section that we carry in 070543. I only specify the thermally broken systems there -- the typical support systems are carried in division 05. Most of our cladding products do not come with their own support systems, so I do separate them out. (and we can also adjust the size to take into account the exterior insulation thickness)