"Yellow Chain"

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Author Message J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan Post Number: 1187 Registered: 05-2004 Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2023 - 06:48 pm:    I am going to specify a "yellow chain" that is a safety barrier around a dangerous roof area. This is supposed to deter people from being in this area during certain times when dangerous venting is occurring. An example can be found at https://www.barrierwarehouse.com/Chainboss-YELLOW-Plastic-Safety-2-Chain-100ft-box-p/u2351yel.htm Does anyone have a good idea of where this should be specified? J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP Greta Eckhardt Senior Member Username: gretaeckhardt Post Number: 127 Registered: 08-2013 Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2023 - 07:35 pm:    I would specify the chain and the posts that support it in a Roof Accessories section in Division 07. David G. Axt, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: david_axt Post Number: 2028 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2023 - 01:51 pm:    Isn't safety the contractor's means and methods? David G. Axt, CDT, CCS, CSI, SCIP Specifications Consultant Axt Consulting LLC J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan Post Number: 1188 Registered: 05-2004 Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2023 - 10:25 am:    This will be a part of the permanent facility. J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 1572 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2023 - 10:38 am:    I presume that the chain will be partnered with large signs saying "Run away when venting!" or something similar, perhaps paired with alarms and flashing lights. Maybe coat the walking area deemed dangerous with a hatched, safety orange coating. I can't imagine that anyone will take a plastic yellow chain seriously enough to stay away. It may just be an invitation for people to cross into the danger area. J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan Post Number: 1189 Registered: 05-2004 Posted on Friday, June 23, 2023 - 10:35 am:    Good point, Ken. Since this is a roof area that is not open to the public, I am assuming that a pointed suggestion (yellow chain and sign) will be sufficient. J. Peter Jordan, FCSI, AIA, CCS, LEED AP, SCIP ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 1573 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, June 23, 2023 - 11:09 am:    I was just having fun, visualizing people who touch surfaces that have "Wet Paint" signs on them. Maybe I was just projecting what I'm afraid I would do if I saw it. One of those "Hey, what's this?" moments. Loretta Sheridan Senior Member Username: leshrdn Post Number: 96 Registered: 11-2021 Posted on Friday, June 23, 2023 - 11:59 am:    It seems to me that a plastic yellow chain wouldn't hold up very long. I know we weren't told what is in the dangerous roof area, but my limited experience, one of the things I had to deal with was an MRI quench vent. I don't recall what we did for that project. But other roof quench vents I have seen have a railing around the area. Actually, other dangerous roof areas I have seen usually had a railing around the area. Sometimes safety yellow, but not always. (MRI quench vents that open at ground level usually have fencing round it.) Steven Bruneel, Retired Architect Senior Member Username: redseca2 Post Number: 718 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, June 23, 2023 - 03:55 pm:    I am used to specifying safety rails to put around roof hatches that often include a removable chain across the open end where you would access the roof hatch. These are usually yellow. The intent of the roof hatch safety railing is to prevent someone walking into an open roof hatch, specifically fire fighters on a smokey roof. I assume this is just a modular adaption based on the same kit of parts, possibly from the same manufacturer.