Wood Doors with Single Large Glass Lite

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Author Message Loretta Sheridan Senior Member Username: leshrdn Post Number: 85 Registered: 11-2021 Posted on Monday, April 24, 2023 - 10:44 am:    What section do you specify wood doors with a single large glass lite? I already know where I specify these, but I am polling all you experts because I have a disagreement with the architect. David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA, A-SCIP, LEED AP Senior Member Username: davidc Post Number: 24 Registered: 02-2015 Posted on Monday, April 24, 2023 - 10:55 am:    Sounds like it belongs in 08 14 33 - Stile and Rail Wood Doors. What is the Architect proposing? David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Corgan Associates, Inc. Sr. Specifier, Sr. Associate Jeff Leemhuis, CCS, SCIP Senior Member Username: jrlbarch Post Number: 49 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Monday, April 24, 2023 - 11:03 am:    I have had this come up recently on a project and considered this as just a type of flush door with glass, and specified this in Section 08 14 16 - Flush Wood Doors. I went to a couple of the familiar wood door manufacturers websites and their literature seems to confirm this. Not to say you couldn't do this as a true stile and rail wood door if you wanted that particular look on transparent finished doors. Rosa Cheney Senior Member Username: rdcaia Post Number: 31 Registered: 07-2018 Posted on Monday, April 24, 2023 - 11:12 am:    If you are asking where under broad-scope 081400 Wood Doors do I specify full-glass wood doors... For interior doors: I don't have a one-size-fits-all answer as to whether to specify in 081416 Flush Wood Doors or 081433 Stile and Rail Wood Doors. I consider the aesthetics that the Architect is trying to achieve. There are aesthetic differences between fully-glazed flush wood doors and fully-glazed stile and rail wood doors. (i.e. the wood grain direction will vary in flush wood doors vs stile and rail, and there are visible seams between stiles and rails on stile and rail doors which would affect both transparent and painted doors.) If the project is not specifically using one type of door versus the other, then I show the Architect pictures of the two types of glazed wood doors, to help them understand the subtle differences in the appearance of one versus the other. And then I specify the doors in the appropriate section based on the aesthetic the Architect is trying to achieve. For exterior doors: I typically use 081433 Stile and Rail Wood Doors or 081433.13 Wood Terrace Doors depending on the application. Edward J Dueppen, RA, CSI, CCS, LEED AP Senior Member Username: edueppen Post Number: 91 Registered: 08-2013 Posted on Monday, April 24, 2023 - 11:31 am:    I specify full-lite wood doors as Flush Wood Doors. I checked with a couple of wood door manufacturers several years ago and they indicated that full-lite flush wood doors are not only stronger than stile and rail doors, they are significantly less expensive. Ronald J. Ray, RA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: rjray Post Number: 218 Registered: 04-2004 Posted on Monday, April 24, 2023 - 11:53 am:    I agree that flush wood doors and stile and rail wood doors are acceptable alternatives, with the deciding factor being the desired look. I usually specify them with structural composite lumber as the core material.