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Russ Hinkle, AIA, CDT, LEED BD+C
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Username: rhinkle

Post Number: 142
Registered: 02-2006


Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 - 08:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We have "balcony" access from residential units in a high rise. The balconies are shared in the sense that the neighbor can hop the fence. So the doors have locks. We consider these generally not habitable space, so we don't see an issue even though someone could get locked out on the balcony. The question has come up from the contractor and owner. Before we go to the AHJ, we wanted to investigate this issue. Have others run into this?
Russ Hinkle
Ronald L. Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
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Username: specman

Post Number: 1523
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 - 11:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

They should be lockable for security reasons--not just from neighbors, but from anyone who has the ability to climb from floor to floor. I've seen them in every hotel with a balcony that I've ever stayed in.
Ron Geren, FCSI Lifetime Member, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSC, SCIP
Ellis C. Whitby, PE, CSI, AIA, LEED
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Username: ecwhitby

Post Number: 433
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 - 03:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Russ;
If the Owner is so concerned, a door bell could be added on the balcony. Of curse, it the person locking themselves out was the only person home they may be in a bit of a problem.
Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C
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Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip

Post Number: 446
Registered: 02-2014
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 - 03:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

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Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C
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Username: chris_grimm_ccs_scip

Post Number: 447
Registered: 02-2014
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 - 03:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

(Just one more reason Ron & Ellis are correct!)
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 1201
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 - 04:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I'm not aware of ever having an AHJ question locks on balcony doors.

If someone gets locked out, couldn't they climb over and ask their neighbors to let them in? I guess I better make sure I have cell phone service before heading out the door.
Guest (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 - 04:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Would it be acceptable to the Owner to have a locking device that wouldn't automatically lock behind you if you close the balcony door? A deadbolt for example. That way the only way to get locked out is purposefully from someone on the inside closing and locking the door while you're out on the balcony.
Dave Metzger
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Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 738
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2018 - 06:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Guest is dead on. In my condo, the balcony doors have double-cylinder deadbolts, so one can't access the balcony without a key

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