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John Hunter
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Username: johnhunter

Post Number: 126
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2015 - 02:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We're doing multiple projects where MEP, Fire Protection, Security and A/V are all being done as Design-Build. In most cases we were not involved in developing the Basis of Design documents.

Contractors are tending to submit the Design-Build documents as if they were a typical submittal which doesn't seem appropriate. The design team wants to look at the finishes of the visible devices, etc. but really isn't in a position to review equipment.

Is anyone else seeing this and how are you handling this process?
Nathan Woods, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP
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Username: nwoods

Post Number: 690
Registered: 08-2005

Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2015 - 02:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

In my recent experience, the DB DRAWINGS are usually compiled along with my architectural (and usually structural) drawings, with the occasional exception for Curtainwall and Firesprinkler, which are often left out as deferred submittal items.

The product data and material items usually reviewed in a preliminary fashion during design coordination and production of the CD's, and SHOULD be the basis of design for the spec sections I receive from those same DB Subs. Once complete, I usually receive the more detailed cutsheet packages and so forth as formal submittals during the CA phase, and I review and process them accordingly as the AOR. This works well. My review is for general conformance, final color selections, and the like. You would think this would cut down on the substitution process, but no, I still get a lot substitutions during the course of the work. Those are more complicated, because the DB guy is responsible for his own stuff, my substitution review is really tightly confined with very specific language to that effect.

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