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Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 1167
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 04:26 pm: |    |
Has anyone familiarity with this product, last minute request from a client to include in a Project Manual - I have no experience with this product. |
Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS SCIP
Senior Member
Username: wilsonconsulting
Post Number: 150
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 05:13 pm: | |
Yes. High-quality fiber-cement panel rainscreen cladding system. I just emailed you my master section.
Jeff Wilson
Wilson Consulting Inc
Narberth PA |
Nathan Woods, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP
Senior Member
Username: nwoods
Post Number: 595
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 05:18 pm: | |
Yes, I just finished a large medical office building in a desert environment with a Swiss Pearl rainscreen system. Turned out well, but detailing wasn't fun, dimensional accuracy required down to 1/32" of an inch, and all the panels are in metric sizes only.... However, Swiss Pearl's website has lots of good, easily applied technical data, and at least here in Socal, they have good representation through "Innovative Concrete Products and Marketing, Inc" http://icpmi.com/2011/08/masonry-fiber-reinforced-cement-facades/
Biggest thing I would say you need to consider in its use is to avoid applying it where people can touch it (we started the Swiss Pearl panels at +11' aff) because it scratches fairly easily. Also, because the joints and gaps between panels, your weather barrier needs to be long term UV resistant, and there aren't too many products that can do that. |
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski
Post Number: 1892
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 05:19 pm: | |
GRIN - Be careful what you ask for, especially on this forum. Jerome now has at least 3 sections (I sent him sections for both interior and exterior applications) |
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec
Post Number: 1168
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 05:25 pm: | |
Lynn, I never regret the help I receive from this forum, I thank Colin for his efforts as much as I can by recommending 4specs to all my colleagues and clients. Is there any better resource online for specifiers? |
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski
Post Number: 1893
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 05:39 pm: | |
Jerome, I couldn't agree more. |
Brett Scarfino (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2014 - 11:38 am: | |
Some additional thoughts to consider:
1) Arch/Client be aware: Open joints = can see girt system and insulation (if applicable).
2) Similar to the comment on weather barrier exposure - if you have continuous insulation behind the panels, be careful of what product is spec'd.
3) maintaining precise alignments/clean and even joints can be challenging for the installers. Steep learning curve in my experience. I would suggest an onsite mock up, as well as keeping a close eye on installation progress. The panels are connected with aluminum rivets which are not easily "undone".
http://homegrowniowan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/LibraryBuilding.jpg |
johnahunter (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2014 - 12:39 pm: | |
We used it on a library in Mendocino County, CA, both exterior and interior applications. Having a quality fabricator & installer are very important - lead times and procurement were issues for the GC. |
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 687
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2014 - 02:44 pm: | |
To Bret's comments
1 Girts can be powder coated black. This a standard offering from several manufacturers.
2 Continuous insulation can be dark mineral wool or can be conealed by a UV resistant permeable WRB. Engineered Assemblies in Mississauge Ontario uses Airoutshield UV by SRP Canada. (www.engineeredassemblies.com)
Lets not forget, the manufacture of most such panels do not provide the support system. Support systems, including the air/water barrier and insulation, are by the fabricator. Each fabricator has subtle differences. Some use extruded aluminum, some use glavanized steel.
Like Alpolic and Alucobond and Reynobond, they supply the raw panel material only. |
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI ,SCIP
Senior Member
Username: david_axt
Post Number: 1373
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 08:06 pm: | |
My experience is that Swiss Pearl is VERY expensive compared to Hardie Reveal System or Ceraclad.
David G. Axt, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Specifications Consultant/Web Publisher
www.localproductreps.com |
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