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Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
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Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1127
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2014 - 02:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Is anyone familiar with Thermo Wood, I am being asked to specify it for a current project, this is new to me, perhaps not so new to my peers here?
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
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Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 1147
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 - 09:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Seriously, no one has specified ThermoWood?
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1864
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - 09:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I've never even heard of it. Sounds like something I'd burn in my fireplace, perhaps to get rid of creosote in the chimney.
Ellis C. Whitby, PE, CSI, AIA, LEEDŽ AP
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Username: ecwhitby

Post Number: 233
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - 02:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I thought that a shotgun fired up the chimney was what you used to clear creosote (and bird nests).
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1866
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - 02:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Yeah, that sounds like your sort of solution to the problem, Ellis. (grin)
Ellis C. Whitby, PE, CSI, AIA, LEEDŽ AP
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Username: ecwhitby

Post Number: 234
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - 02:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I also advocate the use of cattle prods as an educational tool for recalcitrant coworkers. I am contemplating modernizing to shock collars. ;-)

And I never have heard of "Thermo Wood'
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1867
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - 02:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I finally succumbed to curiosity and googled it. This is almost a generic term as there are multiple manufacturers supposed to be licensed to use the words ThermoWood. According to Wikipedia:

"Thermally modified wood is wood that has been modified by a controlled pyrolysis process of wood being heated (> 180 °C) in absence of oxygen inducing some chemical changes to the chemical structures of cell wall components (lignin, cellulose and hemicellulose) in the wood in order to increase its durability. Low oxygen content prevents the wood from burning at these high temperatures. Several different technologies are introduced using different media including nitrogen gas, steam and hot oil."

So part of the information you'd need is what process and what manufacturer.

There's additional information here at the International ThermoWood Association: http://www.thermowood.fi/

Good luck
Wayne Yancey
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Username: wayne_yancey

Post Number: 671
Registered: 01-2008


Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - 02:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Jerome,

Have you never heard of Google, Bing, Dogpile search engines. Tsk, tsk. Finger wagging. Shame on you.
Robert E. Woodburn, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: bob_woodburn

Post Number: 100
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - 03:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

When I Googled it, I recognized what I had found when I did the same thing after your first post, and I was about to refer to some of what I found, but Lynn's post came in as I was writing, so I won't repeat that.

That said, it appears that ThermoWood (alloneword) is the trademark of a Finnish organization, and that "Thermo Wood" may be used by various other vendors (there are at least 5 different thermal wood treatment processes), who may or may not be vulnerable to suit for trademark infringement, which may indicate that appropriate precautions should be taken in specifying it.

However, I can think of a personal experience that gives this wood preservation concept some credibility. While touring the ruins of Hurculaneum (the Bay of Naples resort town buried in lava by Vesuvius in, I believe, 79 AD), I saw a well-preserved pair of wood-framed bi-parting sliding interior doors (frames, stiles and rails--the infill panels were gone). They were completely charred black by the heat, but still standing, apparently because they were buried in lava, which presumably kept out oxygen necessary for full combustion. They were remarkably simple, as in Japanese or contemporary architecture. And were well preserved for over 1900 years...

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