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Author Message Jeffrey Leemhuis, AIA, CSI, CCS, LEED-AP, SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: jrlbarch Post Number: 33 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 10:11 am:    A question: Where should coat hooks that are attached to the back of office doors, be specified, and indicated on the drawings so that this can be coordinated? Dave Metzger Senior Member Username: davemetzger Post Number: 506 Registered: 07-2001 Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 10:22 am:    If coat hooks are only attached to doors, I'd specify them as door hardware under 087100. And I'd show them on the drawings as part of the door schedule. If the same hooks are on doors and also on walls, I'd specify them under that old standby, miscellaneous specialties (now 10800 Other Specialties). George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: geverding Post Number: 730 Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 10:25 am:    I often see them included within the hardware sets. Although a lot of non-door-hardware manufacturers make coat hooks, door hardware manufacturers also make them (my company's Ives and Assa's Rockwood, to name two). It makes sense to me to include them in 087100. George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA Allegion PLC (formerly Ingersoll Rand) St. Louis, MO John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: john_regener Post Number: 693 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 01:06 pm:    How about something to do with "wardrobe?" Picking an unassigned Masterformat number, I'd say "Section 10 57 19 - Coat Hooks." Don't forget to cross-reference to "10 21 13 - Toilet Compartments," for coat hooks inside toilet stalls, and "10 28 16 - Bath Accessories," for hanging up bathrobes. Otherwise the Contractor might get confused and have to issue an RFI and make the Architect look incompetent. And don't forget to cross-reference the finish carpentry Section for installation of the coat hooks, if you prescribe trade jurisdictions like in the olden days, and don't forget to cross-reference the "wood backing, blocking and curbing" Section, if wood stud walls, or the "cold-formed metal framing" for metal backing. Also, if the project involves LEED or similar sustainable design requirements, cross-reference "Section 01 33 29.03 - Metal Containing Product List" and "Section 01 78 53 - Sustainable Design Closeout Documentation." That is, unless nylon coat hooks are used and then "Section 01 33 29.## - Plastic Containing Product List" will have to be created since no specific number is currently assigned. I happen to use an unassigned number, "Section 01 29 33.13 - Sustainable Design Requirements" for projects where LEED or Green Building Code requirements are applicable. Oh, how did buildings get built before Masterformat? Alan Mays, AIA Senior Member Username: amays Post Number: 175 Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 01:22 pm:    John, where is the like button? I like that one... LOL! ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 738 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 01:43 pm:    John, if that came from anyone other than a spec writer we'd be calling those nice young men in their clean white suits. Nicely done. Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe Post Number: 748 Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 02:59 pm:    Good one, John! You must have talked with one of our mechanical consultants; they seem to believe they need to use every available number in MasterSpec, and have gone on to invent some of their own. Their specs have increased in volume fifty percent or more since MF04. On the other hand, another consultant, who uses an in-house master, has cut their volume in half in the last two years. To the subject at hand. If the robe/coat/whatever hooks are in bathrooms, I put them with toilet accessories, otherwise they go in with casework. Never had a problem. I have not seen them in hardware.