SPECIFYING MOCK-UPS FOR THEME FASCADES

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Author Message Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 632 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 02:36 pm:    There must be someone out there who has specified theme fascades for Las Vegas hotels or a Disney style theme park. You know. Where the fake is real and real is fake. I am working on an enclosed shopping center mall in Dubai. The theme has the look and feel of a centuries old Italian village. Lots of distressed finishes such as stone, brick, plaster, used singly and in combination. Ornamental steel. Window shutters. Stone and brick arches. The list goes on. I am at a loss as to how to specify design intent and the complexity and extent for the retail space fascades. What to mock-up? On-site or off-site? Provide images of existing Italian villages with the desiredlook and feel? Prequalify the specialty artisans? Other quality control measures? Thanks, ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 730 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 03:45 pm:    Hold a prebid meeting in Italy and drive the bidders around the countryside picking and choosing whatever you want. Get the owner to authorize specific selection of stone while you're there. Have fun! Send postcards! Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 633 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 04:09 pm:    Ken, You say that half in fun, but wholy in ernest. Actually, the design team toured a specific location in Italy and took many photos representing design intent. My first thought was give the tradesman the photos. However, I still have to write requirements for mockups for our associate architect in Dubai. Wayne Wayne ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 731 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 04:53 pm:    Dubai is less litigious that we are. I've done a bit of work there with few problems. Honestly, I would post the photos and say build mockups to look like this, this, and this. If it doesn't look like this, it's rejected. Robin E. Snyder Senior Member Username: robin Post Number: 520 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Monday, March 17, 2014 - 12:02 pm:    Wayne: In las vegas I don't typically require mockups. There are a few theming contractors that do most of the work. I require several large samples, showing ranges of finishes and detailed shop drawings. Also, require a minimum number of years experience and finished and installed work that is similar. These are "artistic" features and you want to allow the theming contractor some latitude for submitting the best way to achieve the aesthetic intent (I have language to this effect in the spec). I have seen the architect include photographs to indicate design intent on their drawings. But Ken is right - you need to define what part of the design you want mocked up and let them figure out how to make it. That's what I did for my 16 foot high pink flamingos (the Flamingo Hotel) and my giant 5 foot high purple zebra head (Purple Zebra Slush Bar) and I saw them this weekend and they turned out fine!! Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 634 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Monday, March 17, 2014 - 12:54 pm:    Robin and Lynn J. Thanks very much for your help. @Lynn, Kathryn at Disney gave me great recommendations. Robin's adives is similar. To others, discussion period now closed. David J. Wyatt, CDT Senior Member Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt Post Number: 67 Registered: 03-2011 Posted on Monday, March 17, 2014 - 03:38 pm:    Hey, Wayne, wait up! What are adives? Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 635 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Monday, March 17, 2014 - 03:46 pm:    Canadian spelling for advice. Eh! Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 1782 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 - 01:54 pm:    So glad Kathryn was able to help. I thought of her immediately. (another CSIster comes to the rescue)