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Sheldon Wolfe
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Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 693
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 - 06:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We're working on a hospital project that requires a surface-mounted, manual sliding wood door, that also must swing open (breakout) when fully closed. (No, I don't know why.)

I've contacted the usual suspects - hardware consultants, ICU door manufacturers, Hettich, Häefele, Dorma, Crown, a couple others - and haven't found anything. Suggestions?

Doors 0361 through 0364 on this plan: www.northstarcsi.com/barndoors.png
Wayne Yancey
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Username: wayne_yancey

Post Number: 620
Registered: 01-2008


Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 - 06:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

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Sheldon Wolfe
Senior Member
Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 694
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 12:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Conclusion: Doesn't exist, might be done as a custom door but no one would commit. Using standard surface-mounted ICU door instead.

thanks for playing!
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1730
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 03:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Don't you just love it when a designer "wants" something that doesn't exist and can't be done?

I realize that's one of the ways new products are created, but part of me thinks "get real"!

Why was wood wanted? Opacity? Aesthetics? Could something other than a standard glass panel be used in the ICU door? (We've used decorative glass) It would still have the aluminum frame, but that could be coated.
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 654
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 04:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

A wood door in an ICU? Not plam faced aluminum, but wood. I wonder how hospital risk management would feel about this one.
David J. Wyatt, CDT
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Username: david_j_wyatt_cdt

Post Number: 47
Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2013 - 08:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I too have been sent on a few snipe hunts initiated by owner requests.

Not long ago, I had an owner who wanted a double-acting door with push plates on each side. Problem was, the opening was a 1-hour rated fire wall. After a couple of days of trying to explain the need for positive latching, the owner said nevermind.
Russ Hinkle, AIA, CDT, LEED BD+C
Senior Member
Username: rhinkle

Post Number: 117
Registered: 02-2006


Posted on Friday, December 06, 2013 - 07:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David - that triggers and interesting thought to mind. Have any of you guys specified a left handed smoke shifter or bacon stretcher? Sky hook it my other favorite. Is it Friday already?
Russ Hinkle

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