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Tom Gilmore, AIA, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
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Username: tgilmore

Post Number: 38
Registered: 04-2007


Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2013 - 06:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Has anyone out there had experience with this system? It's being suggested for one of our projects, and I'm leery of proprietary systems, especially structural systems.
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 590
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Friday, August 30, 2013 - 09:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Hi Tom. I've had good experience with their products. I've only specified them for long span conditions at severe applications such as natatoria, but everyone seemed pretty happy with the results. You do end up paying a premium by using them, but you certainly get what you're specifying.
Mark Gilligan SE,
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Username: mark_gilligan

Post Number: 602
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, August 30, 2013 - 02:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Looking at their web site what you are getting is a system that will be mostly shop fabricated and delivered to the site for easy construction. It would appear you could do the same with another manufacturer.

Shop fabrication has some real advantages but requires good coordination with MEP systems. You may find that Epicore's system is not tolerant of field modifications by the plumber and electrician.

Because of the need for coordination I would not think that this system is a good candidate for a project that selects the trade partners based on lowest bid.

The rod bracing they show is not a very good lateral system and the code limits its use. My impression is that they are punting on integration with the lateral system and leaving it to the project engineer. Your structural engineer needs to have major input if you are considering this system for a project.
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 593
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Friday, August 30, 2013 - 03:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Mark, you are correct that the structural engineer, as well as MEP, need to have considerable input into using Epicore as a system. Epic usually tries to get involved with designers when they are on a project and are aware of the need for coordination. Still, it's always important to specify that need as well.

As to using other manufacturers to achieve the same thing, I've been on projects where that has been attempted. Not all of them turned out as well precisely because no one on the decking side was interested in doing anything more than selling decking.

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