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ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 445
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 05:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Since I've been working on a light rail project since August I've been out of the loop in regards to neat, new products being introduced.

Have any of you come across anything really cool lately? Have you used anything new that you've had good experiences with?

Just curious. Thanks.
Alan Mays, AIA
Senior Member
Username: amays

Post Number: 115
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 06:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Goop
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 446
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 06:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

See what happens when I finally ask a serious question?
Alan Mays, AIA
Senior Member
Username: amays

Post Number: 116
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 06:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ken, I couldn't exist. I wanted to expound further by adding that it is the save all, cure all for all problems associated with construction. Then I said, he would understand that.

On a topic, have you ever used Mincey Marble over existing tile? I have a client that wants to refinish showers and tubs with this and I question if it is a smart idea.
Alan Mays, AIA
Senior Member
Username: amays

Post Number: 117
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 06:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

That was resist.
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 447
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 07:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Are you sure? I kind of like the first respone.

I'm not usually a big fan of covering existing tile with other 'stuff' ("Bathfitters", molded marbles, Altro Whiterock, paint, more tile, etc.). I'm always concerned about trapping mold and creating a bigger problem down the road.
• If the existing tile is 'yucky', I prefer to tear it out and replace it with something more appealing.
• If there is a problem causing the existing tile to become yucky, other than just improper maintenance, fix the problem.
• If the tile is just old and out of style, tear it out and replace it.
• If it's just a matter of grout joints being impossible to clean, consider using a Saniglaze system or something comparable.

I've used lots of 'molded marble' type products over the past 30 years or so. Some of it didn't look too bad. Take that any way you'd like. There are some good products out there and if that's your clients taste, that's great. I understand working with budgets. Not everyone can afford stone or porcelain.

As to goop, I see that as the last, desperate attempt to fix a problem, sort of like duck tape. Actually I like duck tape better; everyone knows it will fall off after awhile. If there is a way to avoid goop and not create a maintenance nightmare for the client I'll try to go that route. Granted, sometimes there's just no escaping the stuff.
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC
Senior Member
Username: redseca2

Post Number: 385
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 12:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Dear Ken,

I hate covering things over too, but since 1995 or so, I have had a "temporary crown" on a molar on my late '50's mouth, and it wears out every couple years but my dental plan always fixes for free.

If I want a "permanent crown" I am out of pocket $1500 or so.

So sometimes these temporary covering overs pencil out.
John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: john_regener

Post Number: 612
Registered: 04-2002


Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 02:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Contrary to my tendency towards hujor, I'd like to seriouisly say there are a couple of "cool" things I've discovered lately.

On a positive note, I attended a presentation at Construct 2012 on the sustainable properties of wood framing, including engineered wood products. I was impressed by how wood does not contribute to CO2 in the atmosphere until it burns, and I'm particulary impressed(reminded) about how trees absorb CO2 and give off oxygen. Yeah, duh. That ain't new but giving it attention is pretty cool.

On a negative note, I am (to use a technical term) befuddled by designers who are bedazzled (another technical term) by "green" advertising and choose the newest, coolest products that have little or no product information that can be readily incorporated into construction specifications.
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1613
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 10:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Self-healing concrete?
http://www.durabilityanddesign.com/news/?fuseaction=view&id=9222&nl_versionid=2833
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1614
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 10:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

"Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the air..."
http://www.paintsquare.com/news/?fuseaction=view&id=9220&nl_versionid=2827
Mark Gilligan SE,
Senior Member
Username: mark_gilligan

Post Number: 538
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The self healing coating apparently seals cracks in the coating. I would think that concrete dosed with Xypex has more of a claim to being self healing concrete.
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 961
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 03:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Alan, Marriott has called for Mincey Marble surrounds in all their products, I've specified it on both remodels and new constr, never a problem.
Steve, you had to mention teeth...my constant source of sleepless nights.
I agree with Mark about this self healing concrete, Xypex is the best, when I can get a client to allow it in the specs.

Now my question - anybody ever heard of 'Formline Coping" - is this new or an old products, googling it not getting me anywhere, on a client's drawing. Thanks
J. Peter Jordan
Senior Member
Username: jpjordan

Post Number: 536
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 12:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I just saw an OSB product from LP Building Products with a special coating that can replace Type X gypsum board or fire-rated gypsum sheathing. Been UL-tested in fire-rated assemblies for load bearing and non-load bearing situations. This is not FRT plywood.

Am not a big fan of OSB, but this looks very interesting.
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 453
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 03:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Jerome, is your client trying to match something from an old drawing set? The only time I remember a 'formline' fascia was in a set from the 50s or 60s when the architect was trying to imitate a west coast Native American artform in his building's roof line, kind of a curved,flowing shape where he was trying to imply the shape of a flying eagle. Really cool idea. Essentially it was a custom fabrication. I never saw photos, only the Drawings, so I don't know how it came out. I think the building was somewhere in Oregon. As far as I know, SMACNA never had any details for it. I never saw a spec.
Nathan Woods, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP
Senior Member
Username: nwoods

Post Number: 516
Registered: 08-2005


Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 04:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Maybe not a "product", but I am totally enamored with "www.Join.Me" It's like GotToMeeting, but so much easier and flexible. Several times a day I find myself wishing I could share my screen with someone on the other end of the phone. Now I can, with Join.Me - the best part is that the "viewer" does not need to download any software. I swear every single time I try to use GoToMeeting I have to install something, and something usually goes wrong the first time or two. Join.Me is super simple and easy.

Combine Join.me with Bluebeam and REVIT, and my clients are completely out of excuses in not understanding a critical aspect of the building.
Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 962
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 09:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ken, that's what I think, I've emailed that concern to them and am awaiting their response; I appreciate your response as I was looking for a 2nd opinion on it.
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 457
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 10:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Nathan, this sounds awsome! Hope I get a chance to test drive join.me soon. Thanks for sharing.

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