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Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 554
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 11:14 am: |    |
I have a finishing spec for interior blackened steel.
Does anyone have a spec for interior weathered steel or how to acheive the look and feel of weathered steel similar to the images in this link or Corten?
http://www.chemetal.com/designs/351-special-dark
Chemical conversion coatings?
Please send to wayne.yancey@callison.com
Thanks in advance.
Wayne |
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre
Post Number: 1291
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 05:12 pm: | |
if you add this to the question about a "charred" finish for wood, I'm getting the impression that this is the buidling construction version of buying "distressed" jeans. Apparently everyone wants their new office space to look like a reclaimed ruin. |
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski
Post Number: 1600
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 05:45 pm: | |
Wayne, if this is interior, one would hope that it will not weather further after application/treatment. Why not just coat it with a good coating in the desired color?
Or am I missing some vital design element or aesthetic? |
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 556
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 05:55 pm: | |
Lynn,
I found what I was looking for on a tip from another discussion member. Sorry other discussion member. I forgot your name and deleted or archived your e-mail but added source to my favorites.
http://www.azahner.com/surfaces.cfm
Anne, you are correct as usual.
Wayne |
Robert E. Woodburn
Senior Member
Username: bob_woodburn
Post Number: 26
Registered: 11-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 06:22 pm: | |
Speaking of "reclaimed ruins," this may be the answer to one of contemporary architecture's latent disadvantages. Though looking pristinely brand-new continually is an essential part of its aesthetic, that look may be a challenge to maintain. In old or traditional buildings, a patina of age is expected, even cherished, but deterioration--even a trace--belies and undermines the apparent cutting-edge newness of the avante-garde aesthetic. Solution: Clad novel or distinctively contemporary form in obviously pre-weathered, distressed, pre-soiled or otherwise pre-aged materials. To its postmodern audience, the irony may just be a bonus... |
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg
Post Number: 403
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:01 am: | |
I would hope that, in the spirit of sustainability, the trend would be more one of reuse and less that of destroying new product. What's the carbon footprint of burning new wood? How are the chemicals that distress metals disposed of? What does it deposit into the air? Is this really what we want to be promoting?
I am often amused by those who spend a small fortune on 'distressed' jeans in an effort to imitate the trends of the 60's and 70's. Back then, getting a stiff new pair of inexpensive jeans was acknowledged as a wonderful thing by our friends. Perhaps without even consciously realizing it we were celebrating the introduction of a new canvas upon which our experiences would be written. Within a year or so those jeans were properly broken in. After enough time passed, after proudly displaying our holes, tears, and patches, we turned them into cut-offs and started the process again with new, stiff jeans. There was a simple sense of fulfillment, like that felt when taking the time to 'build' a meal from scratch and then savoring every bite.
Thanks for giving me a chance to reclaim some perspective. It's amazing where we are able to find it. |
Alan Mays, AIA
Senior Member
Username: amays
Post Number: 112
Registered: 02-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 11:48 am: | |
Great prose Mr. Hercenberg. Maybe you should write a book?
Back in Texas, the quick way to break them in was to soak the new jeans and then drag them down the dirt roads for a few miles. Wash them and wear them. You never wore Wranglers or other designer jeans, only Lee jeans. |
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 557
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 11:57 am: | |
1965
Levis 501 button fly with faded wedge inserts sown into lower leg to create bell bottoms. Worn with Janzen Alpaca button sweaters (blousie sleeves) and button-down collar shirt. Cool.
1971
Seafarers from Beau Brummels in Vancouver BC. High rise, bell bottom sailer look. More cool.
Wayne
Still cool in all black. No hair. |
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg
Post Number: 404
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 12:26 pm: | |
Thanks Alan. I write books all the time. No one seems to read them except attorneys and contractors who are in trouble.
Wranglers? I'd have been thrown off the train trestle. The rich kids had Levis. I had Lees. My mother, a concentration camp survivor, refused to buy me jeans; I had to buy my own with lawn and snow money. She wanted to throw out my first pair when the first hole peaked through. We fought about that for about a week. I won. She couldn't understand how anyone could put a hole in a pair of jeans; after all they were made for miners who did real work, not school-age kids.
Wayne, hair is way overrated. I still have most of mine but can't remember what to do with it. Sometimes I comb it. |
Cynie Linton
Senior Member
Username: cynie_linton
Post Number: 24
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 01:42 pm: | |
favorite bell bottoms, blue and white narrow railroad stripe. worn forever in bare feet all over town (dc) with father's Korean War era army jacket. hair that looked like alice in dilbert. do not remember exactly when this was - sometime between 67-71. cheers. |
Ellis C. Whitby, PE, CSI, AIA, LEED® AP
Senior Member
Username: ecwhitby
Post Number: 172
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 01:44 pm: | |
Hair is useful to prevent sunburn on the top of the head when swimming. |
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski
Post Number: 1601
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 02:33 pm: | |
My brother and I bought our Levis in an Army Surplus store. Much cheaper. I bought men's 501 Levis because I could get the length I needed with the waist I wanted. In the 50's they were worn with "engineer boots" (probably my brother's, borrowed when he wasn't looking).
I'm not gonna tell anyone what I wore in the 70's in California. |
Ellis C. Whitby, PE, CSI, AIA, LEED® AP
Senior Member
Username: ecwhitby
Post Number: 173
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 03:39 pm: | |
I, for one, am ever so thankful that camera and video were not as ubiquitous in the 60s and 70s and they are today. I have some photographs from my college days that my mother shared with my then fiancé (now wife) that almost made her reconsider her agreement to marry me. Fortunately I obtained custody of the photos and my children never saw them. |
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg
Post Number: 407
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 09:38 am: | |
Right there with you Ellis.
Lynn, I used to love going the surplus stores. Great toys and great deals on coats, jackets, etc. Almost as good as the thrift stores my friends and I would go to, another activity that my folks frowned upon until they realized how much money I was saving them.
I still remember the first time I heard the words "Your not going outside dressed like that are you?" |
Ellis C. Whitby, PE, CSI, AIA, LEED® AP
Senior Member
Username: ecwhitby
Post Number: 174
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 10:49 am: | |
Ken;
RE: "Your not going outside dressed like that are you?"
Heck, I get that even now! Admittedly, it's more likely to be our daughter than my wife. |
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre
Post Number: 1292
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:00 pm: | |
oh man...I wasn't allowed to wear jeans at home until my second year of college, and like Ken, I had to buy my first pair (Levi's) with my own money, because my mother was not buying me "overalls". I spent about a week embroidering flowers along the hems and up near the waistband. However, by the time we were in college, the accepted technique for softening them up was soak them in sea water (something about the salt); let them dry in the sun; put them on a dirt road and run them over with your car a few times; rinse and repeat the whole cycle two or three times. accepted shoes: clogs in the winter, flat sandals in the summer. oh, and for a sweater -- it had to be a collared type with 3 buttons purchased from the boy's department (I felt very daring when I did that) or a boy's button down shirt. |
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg
Post Number: 409
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:08 pm: | |
So that's why I kept losing my shirt.
I don't know Anne, driving over your jeans? I climbed, swam, hiked, rolled around, and even slept in mine but I never ran over them with my car. As to soaking them in salt water, I did that plenty at the beach but I was wearing them at the time. |
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski
Post Number: 1603
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:23 pm: | |
My older brother paved the way for me (in a lot of other ways, too) for wearing jeans. We called them "dungarees" in NYC. Eight years my senior, my brother was my idol in many things - and jeans was (were?) one of those. I started wearing dungarees when I was in grade school - on Saturdays, anyway. Definitely not to school and definitely, definitely NOT on Sundays (never on Sundays - remember that movie?).
I did wear button-down shirts; I think they were only available in the boys departments, but at any rate, that's where I could get sleeves long enough.
Shoes were saddle in high school. Black and white only, but a bit slimmer and softer for girls.
Sneakers were only worn with those ghastly gym outfits. |
Cynie Linton
Senior Member
Username: cynie_linton
Post Number: 25
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 05:08 pm: | |
Woodward and Lothrop - Boys Department Bargain Basement. My mother got all our clothes there, they were cheap. And she wondered why we didn't like dresses? Chicken or egg, who knows? I wanted converse high tops. That's where she put her foot down. |
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg
Post Number: 410
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 05:24 pm: | |
Oh my, dungarees. That is what my folks called them. I never understood why they refused to call them jeans - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungaree_(fabric)
Woodies was a Washington, DC landmark for years. The downtown store was really a grand place in its day. The Friendship Heights store had a much less imposing/more friendly atmosphere. Then they put Woodies in the malls, they tried to complete with Hecht's and it was never the same. I remember 'graduating' to Raleighs Mens Store as a teenager to buy my first 'adult' suit for my bar mitzvah. I even worked there for awhile. Our neighbors would go to Julius Garfinkels for their high-end clothes. We couldn't even afford to walk in there. That place ranked up there with Saks and I Magnin. |
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre
Post Number: 1293
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 05:31 pm: | |
we wore penny loafers (with pennies) in high school, but I definitely had saddle shoes when I was younger. (and the saddle color, not the black and white ones).
About twenty years ago, I decided that I wanted a pair of saddle shoes, and since I didn't see them in women's shoes, I went into the men's department at Nordstrom. I asked the clerk and he became increasingly more baffled while I described the shoes. Finally I said "you're not from here, are you?" And he said "no. I just came up from the Costa Mesa (CA) store. You know, in Seattle, people expect their shoes to actually do something". |
Robert E. Woodburn
Senior Member
Username: bob_woodburn
Post Number: 27
Registered: 11-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 05:33 pm: | |
Jeans were forbidden in the elementary schools I attended in the 50s, perhaps because their rivets scratched the furniture. So jeans makers started covering the rivets.
Though I wore one pair of Levis (and one pair of rough-out cowboy boots) through most of my midwestern college years, I've been a Texan over 40 years now, where Wranglers, not Levis or even Lee Riders, seem to be the current and overwhelming jean of choice.
I had heard of "dungarees" and knew it meant jeans, but never lived where they were actually called that. I have long thought that the word "dungaree" seemed to evoke a festival--sorta like a jamboree, but involving the competitive and/or celebratory throwing of cow patties, and related activities. Might also describe Texas political races... |
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 558
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 05:36 pm: | |
Dungarees is an east coast thing including the Canadian maritimes. My wife's parents from Nova Scotia called them dungarees. Only enlisted men wore dungarees apparently.
I grew up in the foothills of the Canadian Rockies, home of the Greatest Outdoor Show in Earth, the Calgery Stampede. Home to cattle and oil. Texas of the north only BIGGER.
Jeans, western boots, and cowboy hats are part of every southern Albertan's wardrobe, worn year round but all day and all night for 10 days in July for the Stampede. The job sort of takes a back seat for 10 days for drinking at breakfast, lunch and dinner, at a BBQ and in the bars. Ridden hard and put away wet each night. |
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 559
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 05:37 pm: | |
Dungarees is an east coast thing including the Canadian maritimes. My wife's parents from Nova Scotia called them dungarees. Only enlisted men wore dungarees apparently.
I grew up in the foothills of the Canadian Rockies, home of the Greatest Outdoor Show in Earth, the Calgery Stampede. Home to cattle and oil. Texas of the north only BIGGER.
Jeans, western boots, and cowboy hats are part of every southern Albertan's wardrobe, worn year round but all day and all night for 10 days in July for the Stampede. The job sort of takes a back seat for 10 days for drinking at breakfast, lunch and dinner, at a BBQ and in the bars.
Ridden hard and put away wet each night. |
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