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John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: john_regener

Post Number: 597
Registered: 04-2002


Posted on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 10:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have a project that shows a vision lite in an interior, non-rated door with a sliding glass panel. I have not been able to find such a product in the catalogs of manufacturers usually identified.

Any suggestions of manufacturer and product?
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: geverding

Post Number: 645
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 10:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

John-

Like a transaction window - but without the shelf and bullet resistance? C R Laurence might be able to make up something...
George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA
Ingersoll Rand Security Technologies
St. Louis, MO
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1584
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 11:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Agreed; you can choose the components you need from their catalog.
John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP
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Username: john_regener

Post Number: 598
Registered: 04-2002


Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 04:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks.

I checked CRL and found no packaged "transaction window" for a flush steel door. I guess components could be assembled. A typical glazed lite could be modified with CRL components. Afterall, they make everything from shower enclosures, automotive/RV windows and display case components.

It's another example where the wizardry of spec writing is being called upon to solve a partially-defined problem.
Sheldon Wolfe
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Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 599
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 01:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Is it a rated opening?
John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: john_regener

Post Number: 599
Registered: 04-2002


Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 11:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

As I stated at the beginning, the door is non-rated.

I am going to save this problem for last. Perhaps there will be plancheck comments regarding fire-rating and accessiblity, neither of which the design presently addresses.
Sheldon Wolfe
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Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 601
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 09:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Sorry, missed that. Last week we changed glazing on an opening from glass to 3form. I noted that the opening was rated, so 3form couldn't be used; apparently, the opening had been changed to non-rated, but the opening schedule had not been updated. It's always good to ask if an opening is rated before making changes.

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