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Author Message Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap Senior Member Username: lgoodrob Post Number: 187 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 02:48 pm:    Have you ever heard of this manufacturer for aluminum storefront and entrances? They are located in Quebec. Suggestions? Recommendations? Warnings? Thanks for your help. - Alan Mays, AIA Senior Member Username: amays Post Number: 101 Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 02:56 pm:    They make buses. LOL! John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: bunzick Post Number: 1419 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 03:20 pm:    Lisa. I've heard of them, and they have been specified on a variety of projects that my old firm did. Their products are generally very good, with pretty advanced technologies, and they are very helpful technically. The only shortcoming I could say about them is that their products are often so different from others that it is difficult to put them against competitors in a public environment where comparable products must be listed. Performances would be similar, but not construction, dimensions and other criteria. Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap Senior Member Username: lgoodrob Post Number: 188 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 03:37 pm:    John, Thanks. They are submitting for MA public bid work. Their request for substitution is in metric, so my client Architect is already confused. - John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: bunzick Post Number: 1420 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 04:02 pm:    Also, by the way, all of their products are fabricated the way storefront is: in sticks. Or maybe the frames are fabricated but units are not factory glazed. I can't remember which. If you want a 100% complete window unit shipped to the site, they can't do it. Of course, if the product is storefront or curtain wall, this is not an issue as that's the way these products are always done. Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP, EDAC Senior Member Username: redseca2 Post Number: 352 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 07:33 pm:    If the product is intended for MA public bid work, is a manufacturer in Quebec acceptable? I have a state level client with partial DOE funding and you would have to prove that the screws were manufactured in the USA. John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: bunzick Post Number: 1421 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2012 - 10:29 am:    Massachusetts does not restrict Canadian imports for publicly funded projects. In fact, our market has long had substantial Canadian imports of construction products including structural steel fabrication, steel doors and frames, drywall, and architectural cabinetry. Montreal is only 300 miles from Boston (and closer to other parts of the state), so it's economical to ship. I'm not highly versed in laws limiting country of origin, but I know that some of them - in spite of having the stated purpose of buying American - permit products to be made in several dozen countries. This is because of international trade treaties. These laws are so complicated it's hard for contractors and smaller contracting agencies to really know what is actually required, and I suspect that they are not always enforced correctly.