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Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP
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Username: lazarcitec

Post Number: 764
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - 05:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I need to write a spec on this wood to be used for a rain screen...Trespa is out, someone has money to burn...anyone can offer some assistance on this one?
Steve Taylor (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - 07:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

What you have is essentially a propriatary product. Not that it's patented or anything, but I don't think there will be more than one source. I would call out the species of wood (latin name if you've got it) its secondary attribuit: 400 year old salvaged pilings. Then tell them where to get it.

I hope whoever selected the stuff made sure there is enough of it to do the job. And if it's a done deal they'll need a deposit or something to hold it. In my past life I was involved in a couple of jobs where the specified exotic product evaporated before we could start fabrication.

Steve Taylor
Dave Metzger
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Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 413
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 10:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Jerome, per Steve Taylor's good points, if there's any question about certainty of the supply, it may be worthwhile for the owner to buy (not just put a deposit on) the salvaged wood, and then the salvaged wood would be an owner-furnished product.
Steve Taylor
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Username: steveatwi

Post Number: 46
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 01:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Dave,
Good Point. I would strongly encourage having someone with knowledge verify that the quantity is sufficient. There can be a lot of waste in this sort of operation.
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
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Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 1241
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 01:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I've done a few projects with owner furnished FSC wood; Same issue because good appearance grade FSC wood is hard to come by, especially in any sort of quantity. Steve's suggestion about verifying quantity too. we tend to think that all salvaged wood will be perfect and meet every criteria, but there were bad trees 400 years ago, too.
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Username: geverding

Post Number: 618
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 02:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

"...but there were bad trees 400 years ago, too." That sounds like the punchline from a New Yorker cartoon.
George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA
Ingersoll Rand Security Technologies
St. Louis, MO
Ellis C. Whitby, PE, CSI, AIA, LEED® AP
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Username: ecwhitby

Post Number: 134
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 04:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ok, now someone here has to come up with the cartoon to go that punchline.
Justatim
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Username: justatim

Post Number: 28
Registered: 04-2010
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 07:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

There's already a comic strip called "Bad Tree." http://badtreecomic.com/aboutus.html
It consists mostly of bad puns, but there are a few good puns too.
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1388
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2012 - 10:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Is there such a thing as a "good" pun? After all, according to Oscar Levant, "A pun is the lowest form of humor - when you don't think of it first."
Ellis C. Whitby, PE, CSI, AIA, LEED® AP
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Username: ecwhitby

Post Number: 135
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2012 - 05:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

“Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns; he should be drawn and quoted.” Fred Allen (1894 - 1956)
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
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Username: bunzick

Post Number: 1359
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 04:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Once that wood is no longer submerged, expect it to rot away pretty quickly when used as a cladding.

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