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John Hunter Senior Member Username: johnhunter
Post Number: 91 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:32 pm: | |
We have a project using barn door hardware, which is a first for me. Should it be specified as part of door hardware like residential-type sliding or pocket door hardware or should it be in it's own Section? |
Richard L Matteo, AIA, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: rlmat
Post Number: 464 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:38 pm: | |
When I did Door and Hardware specs, I included it in the Door Hardware Section - no need to have a separate section. |
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: geverding
Post Number: 612 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 09:28 pm: | |
Agreed. It's door hardware unless it is supplied as part of the door itself. Hardware on overhead coiling doors - NOT door hardware. Sliding door hardware - IS door hardware. Exception: cylinders, regardless of where they occur, are usually specified in door hardware to coordinate keying. George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA Ingersoll Rand Security Technologies St. Louis, MO |
Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 498 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 09:48 am: | |
John, This are two good sources for barn door hardware www.crown-industrial.com www.rwhardware.com |
J. Peter Jordan (Unregistered Guest)
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| Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 10:49 am: | |
These are becoming more popular, but you do have to watch how these are coordinated with accessibility requirements and, of course, exiting requirements. |
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP Senior Member Username: redseca2
Post Number: 306 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 03:05 pm: | |
The only other reason to exclude the barn door hardware from the project's "Door Hardware" section would be due to a contract issue, in that the "Door Hardware" section is being prepared by a door hardware consultant who has specifically excluded the barn doors (for whatever reason) from their scope of work. |
Richard L Matteo, AIA, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: rlmat
Post Number: 465 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 03:48 pm: | |
That's asssuming you're using an outside hardware consultant. When I did it, I was the inside spec writer. You can always have the consultant include it in his spec. I've had them include certain types of gate hardware on occasion. |
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: geverding
Post Number: 613 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 10:40 am: | |
Again, agreed. I often include gate hardware, sliding door hardware, and other miscellaneous items (Knox boxes, for example) in the 08 71 00 section that I prepare, even though they are not really in the "scope of work". Sometimes I can help in locating these items, but sometimes the architect tells me exactly what is wanted. George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA Ingersoll Rand Security Technologies St. Louis, MO |
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