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Dale Roberts CSI, CCPR, CTC, LEED Green Associate Senior Member Username: dale_roberts_csi
Post Number: 105 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2013 - 05:25 pm: |    |
The Tile Council of North America (TCNA) recently approved major changes to the ANSI standards for thin-set mortars used for the installation of ceramic and natural stone tile. ANSI A118.15 Improved Modified Dry-Set Cement Mortar. ANSI A118.15 recognizes mortars that exhibit higher shear bond strength in all installation situations. For instance, the 28-day shear bond to impervious tile requirement for a standard A118.4 thin-set mortar is 200 psi and 400 psi for an improved thin-set mortar meeting the requirements of ANSI A118.15 |
ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg
Post Number: 430 Registered: 12-2006

| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2013 - 05:43 pm: |    |
Thanks for sharing this Dale. I hope this doesn't mean that TCNA will double the size of their Manual again. Will this appear in the 2013 edition? |
Dale Roberts CSI, CCPR, CTC, LEED Green Associate Senior Member Username: dale_roberts_csi
Post Number: 106 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2013 - 06:00 pm: |    |
Yes this will appear in the 2013 edition. it will not be published until late April or May. Hopefully it will not triple in size unless you need a new door stop since we no longer get yellow pages. I wonder how many companies are out of business because of the internet? and i an sure Terry O"Hara will keep you updated. |
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| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2013 - 06:39 pm: |    |
Dale - You previously suggested 300 and 450 psi values to distinguish from "lesser" products (200 psi). Are you recommending ANSI stds instead of 300 & 450 psi values? |
Dale Roberts CSI, CCPR, CTC, LEED Green Associate Senior Member Username: dale_roberts_csi
Post Number: 107 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2013 - 03:50 pm: |    |
Yes it is actually very similar to what I recommend. ANSI A118.15 Improved Modified Dry-Set Cement Mortar must meet a 28 day shear bond to impervious tile of a least 400 psi. So for example any Vertical installation with Porcelain tile I would recommend the new ANSI A118.15 Improved Mortar. If you have a broomed concrete floor installing a ceramic tile then I would recommend the ANSI A118.4 |
J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan
Post Number: 531 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2013 - 07:11 pm: |    |
I usually specify the polymer-modified mortars )ANSI A118.4), not dry set mortars (ANSI A118.1). Exactly what is ANSI A118.15 Improved Modified Dry-Set Cement Mortar? |
J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan
Post Number: 532 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2013 - 07:13 pm: |    |
I usually specify the polymer-modified mortars )ANSI A118.4), not dry set mortars (ANSI A118.1). Exactly what is ANSI A118.15 Improved Modified Dry-Set Cement Mortar? |
Dale Roberts CSI, CCPR, CTC, LEED Green Associate Senior Member Username: dale_roberts_csi
Post Number: 108 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 09:34 am: |    |
Below is a link to a technical bulletin on the difference between the mortars. I am also always available to discuss this further with you. http://custombuildingproducts.net/media/7029159/tb52_mortar_standards_1-13.pdf |