Aluminum-Framed, Glazed Storefront Doors

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Author Message Gerard Sanchis Senior Member Username: gerard_sanchis Post Number: 77 Registered: 10-2009 Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 12:59 pm:    Is there a standard for air and water infiltration for Aluminum-Framed, Glazed Storefront Doors? Also, we have been specifying a corner racking test (old Kawneer test) for these doors. Does anyone know if this test has been standardized? Paul Gerber Senior Member Username: paulgerber Post Number: 132 Registered: 04-2010 Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 12:33 am:    Gerard: I consulted my handy dandy office master section and found the following: ASTM E283-04; Standard Test Method for Rate of Air Leakage Through Exterior Windows, Curtain Walls, and Doors Under Specified Pressure Differences Across the Specimen. ASTM E331-00 (2009); Standard Test Method for Water Penetration of Exterior Windows, Skylights, Doors and Curtain Walls by Uniform Static Air Pressure Difference. ASTM E1105-00 (2008); Standard Test Method for Field Determination of Water Penetration of Installed Exterior Windows, Skylights, Doors and Curtain Walls by Uniform or Cyclic Static Air Pressure Difference. Hope this helps and it's not too late! Cheers, Paul Ride it like you stole it!!! Randy Catucci (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Friday, July 27, 2012 - 06:05 am:    There is no test for doors, every manufacturer will tell you this. I am a glazier of 30 years. Doors are not a water tight opening. If you try a water test you most likely will get water at threshold every time and it doesn't matter if you have sweeps. The Threshold is only a water dam and it is only good for a 1/2" Richard L Matteo, AIA, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: rlmat Post Number: 522 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Friday, July 27, 2012 - 04:07 pm:    Paul is correct on the references for test methods and Randy is correct that there will always be some air and water penetration on doors. This requires specifying the best door seals/weatherstripping possible to help mitigate air and water penetration as much as possible. If done properly, the amount of water that gets through is minimal. I've done it on numerous projects. The other thing is to set the threshold (always use one despite what the designers want) in a FULL bed of silicone sealant. J. Peter Jordan Senior Member Username: jpjordan Post Number: 472 Registered: 05-2004 Posted on Friday, July 27, 2012 - 06:43 pm:    Best practice is to always "shelter" entrances (all doors for that matter, but especially storefront entrances. A 10 ft. deep colonade makes a lot of difference, even in a blowing rain. In our area, we have only been requiring vestibules on larger buildings for the last few years. Don't have to tell all youse guys up north that vestibules work really well to keep cold air out (or in as the case may be) as well as water. julio hernandez (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Friday, August 01, 2014 - 01:59 pm:    does aluminum storefront need to get tested if it has been tested in 85? thank you, George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: geverding Post Number: 759 Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 12:36 am:    Retest because the reference standard that describes the test protocol is probably either obsolete, or significantly revised from what was used in 1985. Brett Scarfino (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 10:57 am:    Entrance style doors I've come across more recently list air leakage performance; ASTM E283, test pressure 1.6 PSF, leakage results are typically not more than 1 to 3 CFM/sqft. Energy code (perhaps the newer IECC 2012), I believe, impose air leakage performance on such entrance products (albeit very liberal with respect to other glazed products). Water leakage performance (ASTM E331) is non-existent on entrance style products as others have suggested. 1/2" threshold height and pile/brush gaskets does little for water resistance. AAMA/WDMA/CSA 101/I.S.2/A440-11 Standard/Specification for Windows, Doors, and Unit Skylights. This standard contains all of the various torsion, corner weld, life cycle, air, water, forced entry, operating force...etc. tests that certified products are put through. I keep the "Gateway Performance Requirements" portion as a handy reference.