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a (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2012 - 10:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We changed over our file format from the old Word doc version to the latest docx extension.  However, I am not able to use many different file manager's search functions to search the contents across multiple files anymore. i.e., look for those sections with the word e.g. "safety".  Windows Explorer does have a search feature, but it is extremely showfor some reason.  Short of switching all our master and project files back, does anyone have any suggestions on how to carry out such searches?
Colin Gilboy
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Username: colin

Post Number: 303
Registered: 09-2005


Posted on Friday, June 01, 2012 - 11:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I use a program called UltraEdit for local searches on the 4specs website - it will scan 1,200 files in about 15 seconds (SSD hard drive) looking for any text and can do replaces.

The .docx format is a compressed file structure and may not be directly searchable.

Ultraedit has a lot of interesting features and searching a zipped file may be one.
http://www.ultraedit.com/

There is a free trial and includes a compare 2 files program.
Colin Gilboy
Publisher, 4specs.com
435.654.5775 - Utah
800.369.8008
David E Lorenzini
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Username: deloren

Post Number: 131
Registered: 04-2000


Posted on Friday, June 01, 2012 - 08:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

In Microsoft's wisdom to make Word appleal to casual users, they made it harder for a lot of long time users to be more productive.

The visible Find command in the Ribbon is only for simple searches. I'm not sure if you tried this, but attached to the right side of the Find command is a little down arrow. That will bring up the traditional search command that you may be looking for.

The real power for searching is in the Wild Cards. but that is still there as well. Microsoft did not leave out anything, but only displayed the items that a casual user might need.
David Lorenzini, FCSI, CCS
Architectural Resources Co.
David Stutzman
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Username: david_stutzman

Post Number: 76
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 05:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The best search utility is FileLocatorPro. It will search files using DOS, boolean, and other methods. I will search single word and phrases and show the results in context so you can see if you got what you expected. Its speed is unmatched by Microsoft searches when searching entire drives or multiple folders/subfolders.
Sheldon Wolfe
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Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 570
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Monday, June 04, 2012 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

You can search files in Explorer. In Windows 7, enter the word in the search box at the top right and it will search the directory you're in. It also will search a drive or all available drives. It searches Word, Excel, txt, and some pdf files, probably others. It doesn't have the capabilities of utilities mentioned above, but it works well for most purposes.
Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 406
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2012 - 11:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I use Directory Opus. It basically replaces Explorer and is much more efficient and works much better than Explorer.
Nathan Woods, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP
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Username: nwoods

Post Number: 451
Registered: 08-2005


Posted on Monday, June 04, 2012 - 11:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The Windows 7 search functionality is dramatically improved over previous versions. Its one of its strengths actually.
Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 407
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2012 - 11:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

@Nathan - i found just the opposite. Am I missing something? In old versions, i could put in a section name and "contains" certain words and edited within a certain time frame. I cannot quickly do this in Windows 7. How do you do it?
Nathan Woods, CSI, CCCA, LEED AP
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Username: nwoods

Post Number: 452
Registered: 08-2005


Posted on Monday, June 04, 2012 - 11:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Perhaps I mispoke based on my own limited use. I have not used it for complex searches. I typically just do single word or short phrase searches. With this more simple search process, the Win7 search engine is very fast, and sorts the searches by type, much like the Search on iOS devices.

I just did a simple test with a few BOOLEAN operators, and Win7 did not handle them well at all.

Sorry for the misdirect!
Don Harris CSI, CCS, CCCA, AIA
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Username: don_harris

Post Number: 262
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Monday, June 04, 2012 - 05:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

In Windows 7, open explorer, click Organize (in the upper left corner). In the drop down click "Folder and Search Options". Click the search tab and under "What to search" click the radio button for "Always search file names and contents..."

When I issue a spec I transfer it to a folder on my "C" drive so searches are local and do not go to the server. It makes them faster. You need to add the "C" drive folder to your search options. (Control Panel, Indexing Options). When set up properly it works well. But as you can see, MS hides it the best they can.
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1492
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2012 - 09:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks for the tip, Don. But that still doesn't allow a search to be confined to a particular time period as before (current is more general), nor does it allow for partial names (like the last 4 digits of a section) because you can't separate "name" from "content". Microsoft has just made searches more frustrating and less effective and efficient.
Melissa J. Aguiar, CSI, CCS, SCIP
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Username: melissaaguiar

Post Number: 149
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2012 - 09:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Use Copernic. http://www.copernic.com

It was a life saver.
Melissa J. Aguiar, CSI, CCS, SCIP
Sheldon Wolfe
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Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 571
Registered: 01-2003


Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2012 - 12:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have a free files search utility, Agent Ransack, recently renamed FileLocator Lite. Very useful for more complex searches, including Boolean.

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