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Gerard Sanchis
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Username: gerard_sanchis

Post Number: 68
Registered: 10-2009


Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 02:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The line between selective demolition and cutting and patching is a very fine one with many areas overlapping one another.

We're working on a project where we have both and I think cutting and patching is redundant because a majority of the provisions usually specified in the section can (or should) also be found in selective demo.

What are y'all doing when your work includes remodeling of, and addition to an existing building?
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1399
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 02:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Cutting and Patching are in Division 01, as they often apply to all Divisions. (actually, in 01 7300 Execution)

That tends to simplify things and allows the Division 02 section for demolition to focus on just that.
J. Peter Jordan (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 02:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Cutting and patching as strictly defined is for out of sequence work. I have a drywall partition up with framing, drywall, and joint compount with the electrical already in. Someone comes along and wants to put in another electrical outlet (or the contractor has forgotten one); the resulting activity is cutting and patching.
Justatim
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Username: justatim

Post Number: 29
Registered: 04-2010
Posted on Friday, March 02, 2012 - 07:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I would not permit a "demolisher" of any kind to do any "cutting and patching."
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 166
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Friday, March 02, 2012 - 09:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

When possible, we try to get the original installer to perform the patching after the 'cutting' work is performed. Definitely not the same as demo.
Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIPa, LEED AP BD+C, MAI, RLA
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Username: tsugaguy

Post Number: 268
Registered: 06-2005


Posted on Monday, March 26, 2012 - 03:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Demo is cutting etc without the patching.
Tony Wolf, AIA, CCS, LEED-AP
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Username: tony_wolf

Post Number: 31
Registered: 11-2007


Posted on Monday, March 26, 2012 - 03:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Arcom covers cutting and patching pretty thoroughly in the 017300 Evaluations, too long to quote here, and probably questionable to do so.
Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP
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Username: redseca2

Post Number: 328
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Monday, March 26, 2012 - 05:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

You can have cutting and patching on a green field new construction project, but for there to be demolition, you need there to be a building that was there before your project.

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