Project Manual Inclusion Query

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Author Message Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 758 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 12:00 pm:    We have issued specifications for a HUD residential project and at the last minute one of the Engineering Consultants wants to insert his Structural Calculations for "Light Pole Certification & Foundation Design" into the Project Manual - any thoughts on where to put this - in the appendix? The document is signed and sealed, will this conflict with the Architect's seal on the Project Manual? Marc C Chavez Senior Member Username: mchavez Post Number: 429 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 12:08 pm:    Some place in 003100 available information, but that is an odd one. as for the seal - no problem the stamp is for that document only and no more a problem than a geotechs or surveyor's stamp on their "available information" although arguably a structural stamp is not JUST available information the contractor is still using it and "relies" upon it. Mark Gilligan SE, Senior Member Username: mark_gilligan Post Number: 432 Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 12:45 pm:    There is no reason to do this. This is a lousy idea to be discouraged. The contractor has no need for these calculations and traditionally they are submitted seperately to the building department for permitting. If any changes are made to the light pole calcs as a part of the permitting process then the calcs in the manual would have to be revised. This could end up increasing the likelyhood of a claim by making it a minor mistake was made. Only provide the contractor the information he needs. What type of consultant is this? Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 759 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 12:50 pm:    A specialty structural Engineer, Mark. Mark Gilligan SE, Senior Member Username: mark_gilligan Post Number: 434 Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 01:00 pm:    Talk to the structural engineer for the project. I would tell the specialty engineer no thanks and offer to provide his calculations to the building department as part of the permit submission. Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP Senior Member Username: redseca2 Post Number: 310 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 03:25 pm:    Structural calculations for a variety of items are required by the review and permitting agency, but as others have noted, they are not needed by the contractor. The most I ever would do is give them a template to edit for a cover done in the style of the project manual covers so things match all hunky-dory, but they would never appear even in any TOC for drawings or the spec. What they are worrying about is probably a tiny fraction of the total "engineering calculations" for the project if you consider MEP-S and fire. If you let them in, pretty soon everyone will want follow and let you play desktop publisher for them.