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Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 502
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 03:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I seem to recall someone had a flow chart showing the communication flow and process of working with a specifier. Maybe it was at Academies, 2013. Does this sound familiar to anyone and, if so, would said person be willing to share with me as a basis for a guide sheet/presentation I am preparing for my clients?
Sheldon Wolfe
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Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 09:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I think I saw that... Aha! Here it is!
http://bit.ly/1nt6x22
ken hercenberg
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Post Number: 696
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 11:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Careful Sheldon. A lot of people will believe that
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
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Post Number: 1751
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Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 - 10:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

What?! you mean it's not a true representation of the process?

That's what it feels like this week, anyway.
Sheldon Wolfe
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Post Number: 711
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Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 - 10:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Now playing at theaters everywhere: Zombie Specifier!!!!!!
ken hercenberg
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Post Number: 697
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 - 10:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Well that explains the pitchforks and torches when people come to see me.
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 698
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Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

According to Ask.com, we're artists!
http://www.ask.com/question/what-is-a-construction-specifier
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1752
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Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Is that similar to the "art" of medicine? In which case, we should just "first do no harm"...
G. Wade Bevier, FCSI, CCS, LEED-AP BD+C, SCIPa, USGBC
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 07-2004


Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 - 11:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have often heard of art of medicine also referred to as the "practice of medicine". This does not create a high level of confidence in the process.
If a doctor can get away with practicing after all those years of training then maybe a humble spec writer can practice the "art" of spec writing with an anticipated level of due diligence and professional expectation and not get called out every time the patient(project) just doesn't heal as anticipated due to unforeseen circumstances...
G. Wade Bevier, FCSI, CCS, LEED-AP BD+C, SCIPa, USGBC
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Post Number: 50
Registered: 07-2004


Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 - 11:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

FYI - the Construction Specifications Practice Guide has a figure on page 20 (figure 1.4) titled "Project Manual Development" that illustrates an example of the communication and activities of project manual stages in an organizational flowchart.
Is this something like what you are looking for?
James Sandoz
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Post Number: 134
Registered: 06-2005


Posted on Monday, February 03, 2014 - 09:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

When I passed my exams and got my license my former college room-mate (a business major, BTW) had this zinger which is a take off on the common slogan, John Doe, Practicing <named profession> for <X> years.

My room-mate's version: James Sandoz, Practicing architecture until he gets it right.

I guess this could be said about any "practicing" professional.
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 699
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Monday, February 03, 2014 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I suppose, except it seems like fewer and fewer professionals, regardless of profession, are getting it right.
James Sandoz, AIA, CSI
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Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 135
Registered: 06-2005


Posted on Monday, February 03, 2014 - 12:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

A colleague once told me practicing architecture is like running up sand dunes while wearing ankle weights. These days that may be true for law, medicine, education, etc. as well.

Ken, someday I'll start my own firm: Sisyphus Architects. :-)
Chris Grimm, CSI, CCS, SCIP, LEED AP BD+C, MAI, RLA
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Posted on Friday, February 14, 2014 - 04:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Robin, sorry for delayed response, I have been preoccupied. Ask William Pegues, he has the best such flowchart, and process, that I have seen. http://www.linkedin.com/in/williampegues

James, your comment reminded me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmQujwmalfA.
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS
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Post Number: 897
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Friday, February 14, 2014 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks for the intro, Chris.

Yes, I have a chart of the way I set up communications from the day a PA or PM gets a project to the production of the final Project Manual for bid. It works over and over every time because it not only establishes what needs to go back and forth and when, but also creates specific milestones and due dates, and also can be used as an office wide scheduling tool. And it works for in house as well as specifiers in independent practice.

I have give it as a once every year or so presentation within our own office at WDG as well as I have given it at a couple different conferences.

I have it as a pdf file and I can make it freely available.

William
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate
WDG Architecture, Washington, DC | Dallas, TX
Jeffrey Wilson CSI CCS
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Post Number: 127
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2014 - 05:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I would appreciate a copy of your chart, William. Thank you: Jeff at WilsonConsultingInc dot com.
Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 503
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2014 - 08:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I think I saw it at one of your presentations William - if you don't mind forwarding it, I would be most appreciative. robin@spectraspecs.com
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS
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Username: wpegues

Post Number: 898
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2014 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Copies of a pdf that will scale to whatever printer/plotter you want has been sent out to Robin and Jeffrey. The pdf will print with high quality resolution to any size. My personal copy is about 5 feet tall.

I also send out calendar notifications for the various due dates where information is required. And this includes 'last day to give information' type alerts as well indicating that if information coming in after that date may not make it in. Often it does, but, its not an automatic.

We also use these calendar events as scheduling tools. Those events that are the DRAFT copy and the FINAL/BID copy of the project manual go out with the note for PA's and PM's that they can't schedule anything before or after a DRAFT or FINAL with less than 3 blank workdays between, or it just won't happen. And it gives the PMs the ability to see whose project is a potential conflict in case of a true conflict so that they can work out priorities. This puts scheduling directly into the hands of the PMs and it really works well.

I always begin my presentations to PA's stating that when they get a new project schedule or a change in schedule, that they need to see me even before they tell their mother.

We have been doing this very successfully since the mid 1980s. It really helps the flow of projects as well as information through the office.
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate
WDG Architecture, Washington, DC | Dallas, TX
J. Peter Jordan
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Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2014 - 07:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I would also like a copy. jpjordan@jordanconsultants.com
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
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Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2014 - 12:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Likewise. george.everding@allegion.com

Thanks, William.
George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA
Allegion PLC (formerly Ingersoll Rand)
St. Louis, MO
Richard Gonser AIA CSI CCCA SCIP
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Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2014 - 01:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Since the bandwagon is loading up, count me in.

SpecStudio@verizon.net
Colin Gilboy
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Username: colin

Post Number: 360
Registered: 09-2005


Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2014 - 03:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I am offering to host a copy on the 4specs server of information you would like to offer. I would add your name if you wanted and a short description of the document - say 100 words or so and a permanent link and page to these documents. Suggestions? Ideas? Contributions?
Colin Gilboy
Publisher, 4specs.com
435.654.5775 - Utah
800.369.8008
Sheldon Wolfe
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Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2014 - 05:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Great idea, Colin. I've seen several links in the 4specs discussions that would be good to make readily available.
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS
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Username: wpegues

Post Number: 899
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 12:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Colin,

I can send you the pdf and a short description, just let me know how you want me to send it to you.

Thanks!!
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate
WDG Architecture, Washington, DC | Dallas, TX
Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

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Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 02:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

William - I am not sure if you emailed the PDF to me already - but i haven't seen it yet. If you haven't had a chance yet, no biggey, just making sure it isn't lost in cyberspace.Thanks!!!
Karen L. Zaterman, CCS, LEED-AP, SCIP
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Registered: 10-2005


Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 05:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I will also find this useful but will wait for Colin to do his thing. :-)
Karen L. Zaterman, CSI, CCS, SCIP-Affil, LEED AP BD+C
Colin Gilboy
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Username: colin

Post Number: 361
Registered: 09-2005


Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 09:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Here is the link to William's Project Scheduling Specs.

http://www.4specs.com/articles/general/project-scheduling-specs.pdf

In thinking about this, I plan to add a new area in 4specs for contributed documents. This Project Scheduling Specs document was placed in the general category. I will put info from Dave Stutzman's Conspectus Tips into this area and classify by MasterFormat Divisions and perhaps sections as this grows.

Any suggestions as to a name for the section? and documents referenced here before?
Colin Gilboy
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435.654.5775 - Utah
800.369.8008
David E Lorenzini
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

My Suggestion: Resource Documents
David Lorenzini, FCSI, CCS
Architectural Resources Co.
John McGrann
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Post Number: 110
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 11:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I'll second David's suggestion.

Thanks Colin!
John T. McGrann, Jr., AIA, CSI, CCS, LEED AP
David J. Wyatt, CDT
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 02:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

William: It is an excellent flow chart. It belongs in a book. Thank you for sharing it with us.

Colin: Resource center is a great idea. Thank you.
Colin Gilboy
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Username: colin

Post Number: 362
Registered: 09-2005


Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 02:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I called it the Specifier's Library. This document is now there permanently.

http://www.4specs.com/s/spec-library/

I plan to go through David Stutzman's excellent articles and reclassify them by MasterFormat and set up sections for each division - you can see the rough out on this page.

Be happy to link to public documents at ARCOM and BSD and host or link to other articles the specifier needs to be aware of.

[link corrected - Colin]
Colin Gilboy
Publisher, 4specs.com
435.654.5775 - Utah
800.369.8008
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS
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Username: wpegues

Post Number: 900
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 03:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks, Colin, looks good
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate
WDG Architecture, Washington, DC | Dallas, TX
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEED® AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1759
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 - 10:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Another great service - thanks, Colin.
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS
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Username: wpegues

Post Number: 901
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 - 10:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Colin,

When I select the link in your message…

http://www.4specs.com/s/spec-library/

It comes back as page not found.

[Corrected - Colin]
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate
WDG Architecture, Washington, DC | Dallas, TX
Colin Gilboy
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Username: colin

Post Number: 363
Registered: 09-2005


Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 - 10:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Sorry - moved the page so it is part of our blue search -

http://www.4specs.com/s/spec-library/

I also started to bring in some of the Conspectus Tech Tips starting with concrete:

http://www.4specs.com/s/spec-library/03/

and I modified the link above. These should become a great teaching location for the architects and designers you support.
Colin Gilboy
Publisher, 4specs.com
435.654.5775 - Utah
800.369.8008
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS
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Username: wpegues

Post Number: 902
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 - 11:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Colin,

Bit of testing here for you.

When I am in the Concrete library, and I click on the "General" link, it takes me to the general library where the Flow Chart is located.

But when I am in the general library where it lists the Flow Chart and click General, rather than refreshing the page (or doing nothing because you are already there) it puts up the 'page not found'.

Maybe the General link should not be active when in the General library.

Also, when in the General library, once there, the links to other libraries, including concrete where I just came from, are not active.
William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate
WDG Architecture, Washington, DC | Dallas, TX
Colin Gilboy
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Username: colin

Post Number: 364
Registered: 09-2005


Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 - 11:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Just part of the process of building a new website or area and people looking at it before it is complete and tested.

Made some more changes. These pages are cached for 12 hours and you will have to control-r to refresh the browser.

More to come over the next weekend.
Colin Gilboy
Publisher, 4specs.com
435.200.5775 - Utah
800.369.8008

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