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John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP
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Username: john_regener

Post Number: 556
Registered: 04-2002


Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2012 - 09:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

ENGLISH?

Let's face it: English is a crazy language.

There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple. English muffins weren't invented in England nor French fries in France. Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat.

We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?

If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth? One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese? One index, 2 indices?

Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend, that you comb through annals of history but not a single annal? If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it?

If teachers taught, why don't preachers praught? If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? If you wrote a letter, perhaps you bote your tongue?

Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane. In what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital? Ship by truck and send cargo by ship? Have noses that run and feet that smell? Park on driveways and drive on parkways?

How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and wise guy are opposites? How can overlook and oversee be opposites, while quite a lot and quite a few are alike? How can the weather be hot as hell one day and cold as hell another?

Have you noticed that we talk about certain things only when they are absent? Have you ever seen a horseful carriage or a strapful gown? Met a sung hero or experienced requited love? Have you ever run into someone who was combobulated, gruntled, ruly or peccable?

You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by filling it out and in which an alarm clock goes off by going on.

English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race (which, of course, isn't a race at all). That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the lights are out, they are invisible. And why, when I wind up my watch, I start it, but when I wind up this essay, I end it?
James M. Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
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Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 116
Registered: 06-2005


Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 09:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ah, John, how you make me miss George Carlin. Another treat for the amature linguist is Strictly Speaking by the late Edwin Newman.
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1494
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 10:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Or Richard Lederer: "an American author, speaker, and teacher best known for his books on word play and the English language and his use of oxymorons". His works include "Anguished English", "Get Thee to a Punnery" and "Sleeping Dogs Don't Lay". He also started (or contributed to) S.P.E.L.L. - the Society for the Preservation of English Language and Literature - of which I am a member. (He's also the father of Howard Lederer and Annie Duke, both world-renowned poker players).
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 265
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 08:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I am truly whelmed.

May I suggest that you consider getting a free subscription to AWAD, A Word A Day, at http://wordsmith.org/awad/?
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1495
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 09:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Have one already! That's a fun one, too...although I'm not sure I agree with some of the word definitions for this weeks theme...seems he's pushing a little too much for contrast.
Don Harris CSI, CCS, CCCA, AIA
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Username: don_harris

Post Number: 263
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 11:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Well after all of this, I'm going to unpark my car from the driveway and take a drive on the parkway.
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1498
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Oh, and for AWAD, some payment is appreciated. He does a great job, so it's worth a small amount each year to me.

I grew up in NYC where on Long Island we had a couple of parkways, named for their park-like surroundings, including bike trails. They are in stark contrast to the LIE, which is one of the more ugly drives in the country (or was when I left in 1970).
Richard L Matteo, AIA, CSI, CCS
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Username: rlmat

Post Number: 511
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 07:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The last time I was on Long island (2009), I was going from JFK to Woodbury. Whatever road I was on, it was still ugly.
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
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Username: bunzick

Post Number: 1408
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 11:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The parkways were usually built in the 1930s, when there was much more open space around them.

Then there are the gruntled employees - happy to be there and enjoy their work.
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 277
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 12:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

yesterday evening at the Boston CSI meeting, Mark Kalin was talking about Specifiction (how's that for a great term?). He mentioned a project where he was asked to specify a one-stop elevator which I suppose is just be a room with plastic laminate walls, a railing, an automatic door, and maybe a call station. Kind of like a residence on Star Trek.
Liz O'Sullivan
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Username: liz_osullivan

Post Number: 58
Registered: 10-2011


Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 01:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Awesome!
Dave Metzger
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Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 434
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 01:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Would the occupants of that building have to go up the down staircase to get to that one stop?
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 278
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 01:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Hi Dave. I remember that book. What a classic.
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1505
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 01:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Sounds like an Escher elevator to me...
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1506
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 01:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Oh, and Richard, that would have been mostly the Belt Parkway and the Southern State Parkway...and then some other road to get north across the Island out near Bethpage. You drove past a couple of areas near where I grew up and Levittown, too.
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 279
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 01:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Lynn, I was always impressed with the Belt Parkway. It seemed that every time a car broke down on the Belt it never took more than a half hour before it was stripped down to its frame. That goes back to the 70's. These folks were into recycling before it was popular!
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1507
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 02:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ken, that was true no matter where you were in the city and some of the areas further out, too. I dated a guy in high school who swore he could strip a car in under 20 minutes...and he was a nice kid - in school (automotive shop, of course) and liked my parents! And that was reciprocated; after we broke up, he used to visit my parents.
ken hercenberg
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Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 281
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 03:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Did they still have their cars after he left?
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1508
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 04:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Oh, yeah. In fact, Nick was riding a bicycle at the time, having had his license suspended for parking tickets (the glove box of his car was full of nothing but parking tickets). He was an interesting boyfriend.
Alan Mays, AIA
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Username: amays

Post Number: 95
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 04:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Lynn, hopefully your parents never had to go visit him (in the county jail)! LOL!
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1509
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 04:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Nope, he had "given himself up" - just walked into the police station one day with all the tickets, paid the fines and "did his time" sans auto (in New York, with all the public transportation available, it wasn't that much of a hardship; my folks didn't live in the city by then, but in Nassau County, hence the bicycle). He really was a sweet guy and I hope his life turned out to hold all the happiness he deserved.
Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap
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Username: lgoodrob

Post Number: 183
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 05:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Yes, someone asked us for a one stop elevator again last week. We just attract the most imaginative clients!
My first time at the Whitney Biennial, mid-1980s, there was an exhibit which was exactly that, a one stop elevator in the middle of the gallery. We walked in to an elevator cab: the doors closed; some mechanical humming ensued; the doors opened again; and we all walked out. Early performance art?

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Drawings, I don't need no stinking Drawings!
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1511
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 05:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Are you sure you walked out into the same place in the universe? Are you sure that wasn't a Tardis?
John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP
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Username: john_regener

Post Number: 558
Registered: 04-2002


Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 01:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

A hillbilly family is visiting a big city for the first time. The father and son are in the hotel lobby when they spot some fancy metal doors on a wall.

"What're them, Paw?" The boy asks.

"I don't know," said the father. "I ain't never done see nothin' like them in my whole entire life"

Seconds later an old frail woman walks into the hotel and hobbles across the lobby to the elevator doors. She presses the call button with her cane, waits for the doors to open and gets in. The doors close.

The father and son are amazed by this contraption and continue to watch. They hear a ping sound and the doors open. Out steps a beautiful 20 year old busty blonde.

The father looks at his son and says "Go get your Maw!"

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