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Karen L. Zaterman, CCS, LEED-AP, SCIP
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Username: kittiz

Post Number: 91
Registered: 10-2005

Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 10:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I'm sure this has been discussed and collected ad nauseum, but can't resist sharing my personal favorite -- and the one I keep commenting on but my Engineers keep ignoring:

CALLOUT: Not shown for clarity.

Really, how can it be clear if it is not shown? -- I'd like to know. LOL
Karen L. Zaterman, CSI, CCS, SCIP-Affil, LEED AP BD+C
Moffatt & Nichol - Long Beach, CA
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
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Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 1206
Registered: 07-2002

Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 11:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I've always liked that one too. I understand it, but it still sounds like a mistake.
James M. Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
Senior Member
Username: jsandoz

Post Number: 98
Registered: 06-2005

Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 10:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I wonder how unclear the drawing would be if "it" was shown. :-)
Dale Hurttgam, NCARB, AIA,LEED AP, CSI
Senior Member
Username: dwhurttgam

Post Number: 88
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 01:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

My all time favorite was a large corporation whose facilities department did not like to pay for field checking - one of their "Standard" General Notes on the Drawings was:
The contractor is responsible for providing everything shown on the drawings including items that are shown on the drawings that do not exist in the field.

If a door, toilet room, or any other item was shown and it was not actually there - the contractor was suppose to provide it. Do not know how successful they were with enforcing this. I know that on a couple of facility upgrades that I worked on for them as an outside A/E, I was admonished by them for visiting the site (these projects happened to be local). Others we worked on were in other states. Not the way that I like to operate.
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 90
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 09:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

So to really clarify the project, show nothing!
David Stutzman
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Username: david_stutzman

Post Number: 73
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 07:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I found one today I have never seen before. I set of 10 notes under the heading: HOW TO READ THE DRAWINGS.

Seems the architect must now explain how to use the drawings. Should we add a spec section about how to read the spec, too?
Sheldon Wolfe
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Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 515
Registered: 01-2003

Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2011 - 09:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Great idea. It could include helpful advice like this, which I found in a project manual several years ago.

The words "Furnish", "Provide", "Include", "Supply", "Erect", "Deliver", "Install", "Apply", "Lay" or "Place": These words are intended to be synonymous and to indicate that the material or work specifically mentioned is to be furnished and installed completely by this Contractor and incorporated into the Project. Whenever a material is to be furnished by this Contractor and installed by another Contractor, or installed by this Contractor and furnished by another Contractor, it will be specifically specified.

Contractor: Wherever the term General Contractor appears in the Project Documents, it shall mean Trade Contractor.

There will be no General Contractor on the project. Wherever the term "General Contractor" is used within the Bid Documents, it shall mean that this work shall be provided by the "Contractor" responsible for such work.
Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 1328
Registered: 07-2002

Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 12:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

"Left to Right" (if in English or a related language)
"Top to Bottom" (see note above)
You're allowed the use of a dictionary.
You're allowed to move your lips.
You're allowed to sound out the big words or to ask for help.
Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap
Senior Member
Username: lgoodrob

Post Number: 146
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

If the specifier prepares instructions on how to read the specifications, to whom should these instructions be directed? The Contractor or the Architect?
Sheldon Wolfe
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Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 516
Registered: 01-2003

Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Richard L Matteo, AIA, CSI, CCS
Senior Member
Username: rlmat

Post Number: 450
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I agree with Sheldon - Both
Robert W. Johnson
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Username: robert_w_johnson

Post Number: 168
Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

All Readers: Architect/Engineers, Owner, Contractor, Subcontracctors, Product Reps, Building Officials, Insurance Agents, etc., etc.
ken hercenberg
Senior Member
Username: khercenberg

Post Number: 92
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 05:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

To the only ones who actually read it, the lawyers.

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