Funny drawing notes revisited

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Author Message Karen L. Zaterman, CCS, LEED-AP, SCIP Senior Member Username: kittiz Post Number: 91 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 10:45 pm:    I'm sure this has been discussed and collected ad nauseum, but can't resist sharing my personal favorite -- and the one I keep commenting on but my Engineers keep ignoring: CALLOUT: Not shown for clarity. Really, how can it be clear if it is not shown? -- I'd like to know. LOL Karen L. Zaterman, CSI, CCS, SCIP-Affil, LEED AP BD+C Moffatt & Nichol - Long Beach, CA Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: awhitacre Post Number: 1206 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 11:42 am:    Karen: I've always liked that one too. I understand it, but it still sounds like a mistake. James M. Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: jsandoz Post Number: 98 Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 10:02 am:    I wonder how unclear the drawing would be if "it" was shown. :-) Dale Hurttgam, NCARB, AIA,LEED AP, CSI Senior Member Username: dwhurttgam Post Number: 88 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 01:29 pm:    My all time favorite was a large corporation whose facilities department did not like to pay for field checking - one of their "Standard" General Notes on the Drawings was: The contractor is responsible for providing everything shown on the drawings including items that are shown on the drawings that do not exist in the field. If a door, toilet room, or any other item was shown and it was not actually there - the contractor was suppose to provide it. Do not know how successful they were with enforcing this. I know that on a couple of facility upgrades that I worked on for them as an outside A/E, I was admonished by them for visiting the site (these projects happened to be local). Others we worked on were in other states. Not the way that I like to operate. ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 90 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 09:24 am:    So to really clarify the project, show nothing! David Stutzman Senior Member Username: david_stutzman Post Number: 73 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 07:51 pm:    I found one today I have never seen before. I set of 10 notes under the heading: HOW TO READ THE DRAWINGS. Seems the architect must now explain how to use the drawings. Should we add a spec section about how to read the spec, too? Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe Post Number: 515 Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2011 - 09:59 am:    Great idea. It could include helpful advice like this, which I found in a project manual several years ago. The words "Furnish", "Provide", "Include", "Supply", "Erect", "Deliver", "Install", "Apply", "Lay" or "Place": These words are intended to be synonymous and to indicate that the material or work specifically mentioned is to be furnished and installed completely by this Contractor and incorporated into the Project. Whenever a material is to be furnished by this Contractor and installed by another Contractor, or installed by this Contractor and furnished by another Contractor, it will be specifically specified. Contractor: Wherever the term General Contractor appears in the Project Documents, it shall mean Trade Contractor. There will be no General Contractor on the project. Wherever the term "General Contractor" is used within the Bid Documents, it shall mean that this work shall be provided by the "Contractor" responsible for such work. Lynn Javoroski FCSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 1328 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 12:44 pm:    "Left to Right" (if in English or a related language) "Top to Bottom" (see note above) You're allowed the use of a dictionary. You're allowed to move your lips. You're allowed to sound out the big words or to ask for help. Lisa Goodwin Robbins, RA, CCS, LEED ap Senior Member Username: lgoodrob Post Number: 146 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:02 pm:    If the specifier prepares instructions on how to read the specifications, to whom should these instructions be directed? The Contractor or the Architect? Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe Post Number: 516 Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 02:04 pm:    Yes. Richard L Matteo, AIA, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: rlmat Post Number: 450 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:42 pm:    I agree with Sheldon - Both Robert W. Johnson Senior Member Username: robert_w_johnson Post Number: 168 Registered: 03-2009 Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:19 pm:    All Readers: Architect/Engineers, Owner, Contractor, Subcontracctors, Product Reps, Building Officials, Insurance Agents, etc., etc. ken hercenberg Senior Member Username: khercenberg Post Number: 92 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 05:10 pm:    To the only ones who actually read it, the lawyers.