Sliding doors for bathrooms

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Author Message Russ Hinkle, AIA, CDT, LEED AP Senior Member Username: rhinkle Post Number: 87 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:36 am:    We are having some issues with sliding doors used for bathroom doors. I have not been able to do a detailed look at what we specified yet, but the doors are to heavy, the hardware does not work,etc. I have seen the new design for the bathroom doors at Springhill suites and was impressed. I know that it can be done with the right details and hardware. Can anyone help with hardware recommendations? Russ Hinkle Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 443 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:41 am:    Russ, Are you talking barn doors or pocket doors? William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS Senior Member Username: wpegues Post Number: 836 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:41 am:    Russ, what kind of door is this, a hanging panel of glass that is hung from a rail above and slides? These doors are heavy, or they should be if they are the thickness they are supposed to be, but there are a number of different designs from manufacturers that just fine. There are also some that just don't hold up. Confirm the kind of design of this door (some are calling what I describe a 'barn door'. William William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate WDG Architecture, Washington, DC | Dallas, TX Russ Hinkle, AIA, CDT, LEED AP Senior Member Username: rhinkle Post Number: 88 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:59 am:    They are "barn doors" by design. The doors I saw are wood stile and rail with about an 8" stile, single pane frosted glass in the middle. 36" wide opening. The head had a wood trim frame with the track and a wood trim receive attached to the side of the wall. There was also a guide at the bottom on what we would call the hinge side. I was impressed with how easy the door moved considering the weight of the stile and rail and the glass. Russ Hinkle William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS Senior Member Username: wpegues Post Number: 837 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:09 am:    Russ, I have not done one that is wood framed, our Dallas office does them commonly that are all glass and the hardware is very exposed as part of the design. FSB and Häfele are the 2 principal hardware manufacturers that we use for the sliding hardware. Some of those are quite elegant, and very heavy duty. Some are lighter duty depending on the weight of the panel. But I think we are talking about the same kind of thing. I do believe that there are less 'technical' looking designs - depends on what you want to see. The track has to be selected for the weight and frequency of use of the door as opposed to the design. Some designs look really nice, but are lighter looking and indeed are a lighter service duty. I think the largest we did was hanging a 8 foot by 4 foot panel of 3/4 inch glass on a sliding door into a master bedroom suite, unframed, just glass panel. William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS, SCIP Affiliate WDG Architecture, Washington, DC | Dallas, TX Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman Post Number: 940 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:14 am:    PC Henderson is another source. Ron Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP www.specsandcodes.com Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 444 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:15 am:    Russ, I agree with William re FSB and Hafele. Russ Hinkle, AIA, CDT, LEED AP Senior Member Username: rhinkle Post Number: 89 Registered: 02-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:21 am:    Any experience with Raumplus? Russ Hinkle Steven Bruneel, AIA, CSI-CDT, LEED-AP Senior Member Username: redseca2 Post Number: 267 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 01:52 pm:    We use barn door style sliding doors on many of our hospital projects for the bathroom door in patient rooms because including accessible turning circle clearances for a swing door within the room layout often takes up too much real estate. Our basis of design is Hafele. Robin E. Snyder Senior Member Username: robin Post Number: 354 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 12:15 am:    also take a look at www.kncrowder.com Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: awhitacre Post Number: 1158 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 06:47 pm:    my former office used to use raumplus for super large, heavy "barn door" type installations and as far as I know they have held up well. (I'm thinking 12' x 12' or larger doors -- steel typically). I think we slightly oversized the hardware for those doors, but as long as the door stays in plane, the rest of it works (and looks) very well.