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Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 343
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 09:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The VA spec master refers to "Codes 1 through 10" in ASTM C627. The VA reviewer wants to know what Codes 1 through 10 are. Does anyone have the full ASTM standard that can help me? Thanks!
Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
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Username: specman

Post Number: 885
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 09:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The current version (2010) does not mention anything about "codes."

Knowing the Federal government, especially the VA, they're probably working off an 80's era version.
Ron Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
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Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
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Username: specman

Post Number: 886
Registered: 03-2003


Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 10:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I checked the VA master specification and they reference the 1993 edition that was reapproved in 2007, but I didn't see any significant difference between the two. Neither mentions "codes."

My guess is that they meant to state that the tile installation can pass test cycles 1 through 10 without damage. Cycles 1 through 4 are on a soft rubber wheels, cycles 5 through 8 are on hard rubber wheels, and cycles 9 and 10 are on steel wheels. Each cycle has a progressive loading and duration for each wheel type as follows:

1: 100 lbs / 1 hour
2: 200 lbs / 1 hour
3: 300 lbs / 1 hour
4: 300 lbs / 1 hour
5: 100 lbs / 1 hour
6: 200 lbs / 1 hour
7: 300 lbs / 1 hour
8: 300 lbs / 1 hour
9: 50 lbs / 0.5 hour
10: 100 lbs / 0.5 hour

The standard actually includes up to 14 cycles.

Note that this is a field test of a completed installation, hence its location in PART 3 of the VA spec.
Ron Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
www.specsandcodes.com
Robin E. Snyder
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Username: robin

Post Number: 344
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 10:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

perfect - thanks! Working w/ the VA Master is such an adventure...
Dale Roberts CSI, CCPR, CTC
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Username: dale_roberts_csi

Post Number: 82
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 05:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Hi Robin
ASTM Test method C627 is often referred to as the Robinson Floor Test method for evaluating ceramic floor tile installations systems from residential through Extra heavy depending on how many cycles it makes before cracking the tile. Most of the time this test is completed in the lab, the equipment is not very portable. Check with your setting materials manufacturer or the tile manufacturer. 1 through 10 cycles = Moderate use see below.
Cycles 1 through 3 meet Residential: use Kitchens, Bathrooms and foyers
Cycles 1 through 6 meet Light; light commercial use in office space, reception areas, kitchens, and bathrooms
Cycles 1 through 10 meet Moderate: Normal commercial and light institutional use in public space of restaurants and hospitals
Cycles 1 through 12 meet Heavy: Shopping malls, stores, commercials kitchen, work areas, laboratories, auto showrooms and service areas, shipping/receiving and exterior decks
Cycles 1 through 14 Extra Heavy: Extra Heavy and high impact use in food plants, dairies breweries, and kitchens Requires quarry tile, packing house tile, or tile designated by tile manufacturer

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