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Brett M. Wilbur CSI, CCS, AIA
Senior Member
Username: brett
Post Number: 196
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 03:04 pm: |    |
Anyone have good definitions for the following: bidder, proposer, offerer, respondent.
I see these terms used very loosely. What are the differences? When is a bid a proposal, etc? When am I advertising for proposals and not bids? I know it has to do with public vs. private work but can I use the term proposal for an open competitive bid? What about private work that is using stimulus money? |
Helaine K. Robinson CSI CCS CCCA SCIP
Senior Member
Username: hollyrob
Post Number: 371
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 03:11 pm: | |
Try the Glossary on the PRM CD. Also look at a law dictionary. |
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 358
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 04:25 pm: | |
BIDDER: One who make a bid. ...one who will perform a contract for a specific price. [Blacks]
BIDDER: One who bids. [Oxford]
BIDDER: An entity or person who submits a bid. This refers to one who submits a bid for a prime contract to an owner. A bidder is not a contractor on a specific project until a contract is signed between bidder and the owner [Means]
BIDDER: one who submits a Bid directly to an Owner as distinct from a sub-bidder, who submits a bid to the Bidder [EJCDC - Guide]
PROPOSER: My source document does not have a definition but it could be same as bidder.
OFFERER: My source document does not have a definition.
RESPONDENT: My source document does not have a definition. |
Robert W. Johnson
Senior Member
Username: robert_w_johnson
Post Number: 78
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 04:50 pm: | |
PRM page 5.6:
Bid is an offer to perform a contract for work or to supply materials or goods at a specific price. A bid is a response to a solicitation such as an invitation to bid or an advertisement for bid.
Proposal is an offer from one entity to another, of terms and conditions with reference to some work, which if accepted can form a contract. A proposal implies an opportunity for more consideration by the recipient and is sometimes utilized when project cost or other conditions will be determined by negotiation. A proposal is usually in response to a request for proposal. |
Robert W. Johnson
Senior Member
Username: robert_w_johnson
Post Number: 79
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 04:54 pm: | |
PRM Glossary:
Bid is an offer to perform a contract for work or supply materials or goods at a specific price. A bid is a response to a solicitation
such as an invitation to bid or an advertisement for bid.
A proposal is an offer from one entity to another, of terms and conditions with reference to some work, which if accepted can form a contract. A proposal implies an opportunity for more consideration by the recipient and is sometimes utilized when project cost or other conditions will be determined by negotiation.
A proposal is usually in response to a request for proposal. |
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA
Senior Member
Username: geverding
Post Number: 552
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 05:34 pm: | |
...therefore,I would suggest that:
A BIDDER submits a BID in response to an IFB.
A PROPOSER responds to an RFP or other similar request.
A RESPONDENT then might be either a BIDDER or a PROPOSER? (since both are responding to invitations or requests)
That seems logical based on the PRM defs. But an OFFERER? I am at a loss here...
George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA
Cannon Design - St. Louis, MO |
Sheldon Wolfe
Senior Member
Username: sheldon_wolfe
Post Number: 427
Registered: 01-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 08:39 pm: | |
If you're working with an agency or owner that uses weird terms, get the definitions from them. Assuming, of course, that they don't use them interchangeably. ;-) |
Richard Hird (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 09:22 pm: | |
Per McGraw-Hill complete book of Purchasing forms and agreements by Cliff robertson an offer is a term used in purchasing agreements for goods available for sale under the Uniform Commercial Code. The UCC does not apply to Construction procurements, only non fixed goods.
The term "offer" is defined in purchasing law, but I cannot find anywhere that the term "Offerer" is defined. The term "Vendor" is the correct term for an offerer. |
J. Peter Jordan
Senior Member
Username: jpjordan
Post Number: 443
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 10:40 am: | |
The State of Texas defines the terms "Competitive Sealed Bids" and "Competitive Sealed Proposals" to mean different procurement processes. In addition to the suggestions above, be familiar with local and state laws and regulations regarding procurement and the relevant definitions contained therein. |
Karen L. Zaterman, CCS, LEED-AP, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: kittiz
Post Number: 74
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 03:49 pm: | |
I agree with Sheldon. The owners I work with generally have these, or any similar, terms defined in their General, or Supplementary, Conditions. However, I don't recall ever coming across the use of Respondent.
Karen L. Zaterman, CSI, CCS, SCIP-Affil, LEED AP BD+C
Moffatt & Nichol - Long Beach, CA |
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