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George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: geverding
Post Number: 540 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 03:25 pm: | |
Code requires special inspections for all EIFS applications (1704.12 in 2006 IBC and 1704.14 in 2009 IBC) except water drainage or over concrete and masonry, but it is silent on what specific inspections are required. What special inspections would one typically require for EIFS? George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA Cannon Design - St. Louis, MO |
Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman
Post Number: 864 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 04:37 pm: | |
There is no "standard" to what is required, but if the proposed EIFS has an ICC-ES Evaluation Service Report, it should state in the report what is required. For example, Dryvit's report for its Outsulation Plus MD System indicates that the special inspector's duties include "verifying field preparation of materials, expiration dates, installation of components, curing of components, installation of joints and sealant, applied dry-film thickness and interface of coating material with flashing." Ron Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP www.specsandcodes.com |
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| Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 04:41 pm: | |
Refer to ICC-ES's Acceptance Criteria for EIFS. http://www.icc-es.org/criteria/index.cfm?csi_num=07240&view_details=yes |
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: geverding
Post Number: 541 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 05:27 pm: | |
Thanks Ron. After I asked the question, I remembered we had a copy of CASE form 100, which suggests: 1. Material Submittals 2. Condition of Substrate 3. Application of Foam Plastic Board 4. Application of Coatings 5. Application of Mesh 6. Ambient Condition and Curing 7. Flashing and Joint Details 8. Sealants/Caulks 9. Other: I noted too that the 2009 code requires installation according to manufacturer's instructions, along with several other additional requirements that were not present in 2006. These were in the Exterior Walls chapter of the code (14?). So I would infer that these new requirements might provide clues to what the code is looking for in the inspections. George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA Cannon Design - St. Louis, MO |
Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman
Post Number: 865 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 05:52 pm: | |
Although the ICC-ES, in their ESRs and Acceptance Criterion for EIFS, establish some guidance as to what should be included in an EIFS special inspection, neither of these documents are referenced by the IBC, and thus are not required by the IBC. However, they do provide some guidance. Therefore, it is up to the jurisdiction to determine what is required for an EIFS special inspection, and contact should be made with the building department to determine those requirements. Ron Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP www.specsandcodes.com |
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS Senior Member Username: awhitacre
Post Number: 972 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 12:38 pm: | |
I don't mean to be snoopy, George -- but does your insurer allow the installation of EIFS materials? No firm I've worked for, for the past twenty years will allow installation of the material on their jobs. |
George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: geverding
Post Number: 543 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 03:56 pm: | |
Let's just say this is a "unique" project, and that my experience on this issue is limited. George A. Everding AIA CSI CCS CCCA Cannon Design - St. Louis, MO |
Paul Gerber Senior Member Username: paulgerber
Post Number: 20 Registered: 04-2010
| Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 03:44 pm: | |
It is used quite a bit in Canada (or specifically SW Ontario) but after many problems in the past and some strong-arming by insurance companies and the OAA (Ontario Association of Architects) or RAIC (Royal Architectural Institute of Canada) the manufactures (most of whom are I would assume the same as you have - Dryvit, Durabond, Durock) have made changes to their systems to eliminate the past problems. Although my firm doesn't deal with it extensively I do know that manufacturers have created a "drainage layer" between the substrate and the insulation layer...in effect turning EIFS into a rainscreen principal wall...either by grooved slots or "pucks" on the backside of the insulation as well as a moisture barrier on the substrate. The one job that we have done recently that I spec'd, the acceptable systems were Dryvit Outsulation Plus, Durex Qauntum Select and Durock PUCCS. All 3 met the current requirements for EIFS in ON. Not sure if any of these systems are available or acceptable south of the 49th parallel. Ride it like you stole it!!! |
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