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David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: david_axt
Post Number: 1078 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 01:33 pm: | |
Does anyone have an example of a signature sheet that they can send me. Our code official is requiring a signature sheet for the project manual that we are submitting for permit. |
Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman
Post Number: 830 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 01:39 pm: | |
What's your email? Ron Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP www.specsandcodes.com |
Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey
Post Number: 299 Registered: 01-2008
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 01:48 pm: | |
wayne.yancey@callison.com |
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI Senior Member Username: david_axt
Post Number: 1079 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 01:48 pm: | |
daxt@bassettiarch.com Thanks! |
Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe
Post Number: 383 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 04:07 pm: | |
Check with the registration board of the state where the project is located. Some require a seal, most require specific text. Also, some require wet signatures, while other, more enlightened states, allow use of an image. |
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski
Post Number: 990 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 04:10 pm: | |
Some also require specific configurations, dictating the location of the seal in relation to the signature. "Enlightened" states? What's that? Those in sunshine? |
Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe
Post Number: 384 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 04:17 pm: | |
Yep, all that stuff. It's made more interesting by local agencies and building officials, who often have their own interpretations of what is required. We are fortunate to have a single board of registration here, so the certification rules are the same for everyone. Another state we have worked in has one board for architects, another for engineers, and maybe more. No surprise, but the text, configuration, and rules for use of each certification differ. What's a "sunshine"? |
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski
Post Number: 991 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 04:19 pm: | |
"...Please don't take my sunshine away..." |
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: bunzick
Post Number: 1160 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 04:43 pm: | |
Our seals page (or pages) has simple boxes, two columns wide, with the discipline at the top of each box and the PE/Arch's name at the bottom of the box. Like drawings, many jurisdictions want to see the wet seal, so we circulate a few copies to the PEs to stamp. Fortunately for us, that is usually no more that a walk downstairs. |
Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman
Post Number: 831 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 05:19 pm: | |
Arizona is "enlightened" in both aspects: they allow digital seals and it is currently sunny and 72 degrees (Phoenix metro area, that is). Ron Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP www.specsandcodes.com |
Robert W. Johnson Senior Member Username: robert_w_johnson
Post Number: 55 Registered: 03-2009
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 05:25 pm: | |
And what was it last July? |
Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman
Post Number: 832 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 05:42 pm: | |
It was a nippy 115 degrees. Ron Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP www.specsandcodes.com |
Phil Kabza Senior Member Username: phil_kabza
Post Number: 419 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 10:37 pm: | |
But it's a dry heat, right? |
(Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 09:23 am: | |
Has anyone encountered a requirement for electronic signature pages? If so, how did you resolve? How are electronic signatures authenticated/verified? Are drawings electronically stamped/signed? I have been "out-of-the-loop" re: drawing production since the advent of CADD, so I am somewhat clueless about current technology/capabilities. |
Sheldon Wolfe Senior Member Username: sheldon_wolfe
Post Number: 385 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 09:56 am: | |
By "electronic signature" do you mean a graphic image or a digital signature? |
Mark Gilligan SE, CSI Senior Member Username: mark_gilligan
Post Number: 255 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 12:55 pm: | |
As I understand it digital signatures requires adding some specially encrypted text to the file of the complete document. Any additions or changes to the file would void the digital signature. I see problems if you try to get multiple individuals to apply their digital signatures to the document. First the digital signatures would need to be applied to a file of the complete project manual which means that this would be the last thing done. You would have each individual apply his digital signature to the file in sequence. I would suspect that many consultants would not have the ability to apply a digital signature. It is not clear how somebody else can apply a digital signature for you. I am assuming that you are doing work in a state that allows the use of digital signature. Where am I wrong? |
(Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 01:41 pm: | |
A graphic image does not have any authenticity, as I can easily scan/insert an image of seals, stamps, signatures, etc. So I guess that what I am inquiring about are digital signatures. By Mark's comment, it is apparent that multiple digital signatures may be problematic. After some more online research, it appears that digital signatures, depending on the level of authenticity desired, could require third party certification. So, back to my original question, has anyone encountered any requirement for digital signatures...for any level of authenticity/certification? If so, how was it accomplished? |
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