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Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI
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Username: rliebing

Post Number: 999
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Any one ventured into the never-never land of a new Section 087400, for Door Access Devices/Systems? Care to share?

Been advised by AHC to do this in order to separate the complexity of same from the normal array of hardware items.

Also, my take is to have the AHC describe the overall system/plan as part of the spec text [Part 1] to carlify intent, etc.

Also, AHC notes good idea to elaborate on door elevations to show access device locations[????} Comments
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
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Username: bunzick

Post Number: 1058
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We specify access control regularly in Division 28. The hardware consultants and security consultants seem to have a pretty clear definition as to where each others work starts and stops. Typically the owner's security person (in-house or consultant) gives us the operating parameters, and we specify the equipment. On a few projects, the security is done by the owner separately, but coordinated the same way. Electrified locksets and the like are in Hardware, but the controlling of all of it is in Access Control or security systems sections. The two entities have regular meetings with our PAs and PMs to coordinate.
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
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Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 895
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 02:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We do the same as John, using sections by the AHC (only formatting as necessary); I guess that if you want control over where the controls are, elevating would be a good idea. Otherwise, they may be placed where you don't want them, especially if the locations are different or special
John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP
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Username: bunzick

Post Number: 1059
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 03:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

To amplify my comment, simple operation narratives for electrified hardware are in the sets if they are stand-alone, or if the hardware interacts with other hardware. Overall operational narratives are in the security descriptions. Often, there are door elevations with single-line wiring diagrams for these systems as well.

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