Spec section for Metal Finishes

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Author Message Robin E. Snyder Senior Member Username: robin Post Number: 148 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 01:17 pm:    I am working on a large project and want to break out metal finishes into a separate section - does anyone have something like this (that includes Kynar-type, powder coating etc) that they would be willing to share as a starting point for me? robin@spectraspecs.com. All assistance is appreciated! William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS Senior Member Username: wpegues Post Number: 681 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 03:49 pm:    You are talking about Section 05 05 13, Shop-Applied Coatings for Metal? That's what i use for that, includes anodic coatings, fluoropolymer, and other specialty coatings including powdered coatings. MF2004 also puts galvanic coaings here as well. William John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: john_regener Post Number: 355 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 10:41 am:    The idea of specifying metal finishes in distinct "metal finishing" sections is consistent with "say it once and in the most appropriate location." Rather than specifying the fluoropolymer paint finish for aluminum in four or five sections with aluminum products --- and risk error should the finish color, etc. change --- I typically use a Division 05 Section as suggested by William. Similarly, I also have a galvanized finish Section. I find that MF04 is not as conducive as MF95 to numbering and titling these Sections. Only by using Level 4 numbers (.13, .16, etc.) do these work under MF04. Another so-called improvement of MF04. Richard L Matteo, AIA, CSI, CCS Senior Member Username: rlmat Post Number: 249 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 11:47 am:    I used a Section 05030 Metal Finishes in a former firm for all metal finishes. I currently use 09960 (MF95) High Performance Finishes for High Performance coatings (those still allowed by SCAQMD), Kynar-based coatings, and powder coated finishes. I like the idea of just having it in one place, especially when dealing with a number of sections requiring these finishes. Robin E. Snyder Senior Member Username: robin Post Number: 149 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 01:30 pm:    Does anyone have a sample spec they would be willing to share? John Regener, AIA, CCS, CCCA, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: john_regener Post Number: 356 Registered: 04-2002 Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 08:13 pm:    Rich: I think the idea of a Division 05 Section for this painted finish is that it is applied in a shop or factory. My interpretation of MasterFormat is that the painting and coating Sections in Division 09 specify field-applied products ... er, specify field-accomplished work resultings or something like that. Christopher E. Grimm, CSI, CCS, LEEDŽ-AP, MAI, RLA Senior Member Username: tsugaguy Post Number: 111 Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 09:23 am:    Tiger/Drylac has a very wide range of powder coating options, including a flouropolymer powder coat. They have some psuedo-specs on their website at http://www.tigerdrylac.com/index.php?id=664&L=0%20onfocus%3DblurLink%28this%29%3B (you have to use Google "search this site" to get there, no direct link I could find). Their contact for the southeast is Jeff Helmintoller, (770) 218-2490, a very knowledgeable gentleman who gave an enlightening TechTalk on powder coatings at our CSI chapter. MPI has very complete guide specs in general, if you know where to find them on their website. (www.specifypaint.com, requires subscription login.) Not sure if they address shop applied some, I'd have to take a closer look. Direct link (if you are logged in) is http://www.specifypaint.com/Contents_ASM/Chapter4_GUIDESPEC/fullspec.doc You could also try to contact Barry Law at bgl@mpi.net, he was MPI President recently and is a good resource person. Another possibility, PPG has a good Product MASTERSPEC, but it is in Division 09 geared towards field applied. I'm sure a call to your PPG rep, along w/ a call to a local metal fabricator could go a long way towards tailoring it to a shop applied approach. The easy way out is keep all the products in division 09, and cross reference to 05 for application; and cross reference back to be sure they get this on both ends. If you are coating anything structural, make sure your structural engineer knows the plan.