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Robin E. Snyder
Senior Member
Username: robin

Post Number: 141
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 03:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have plywood indicated to protect finished concrete that is scheduled to be sealed and left exposed in the final construction. The Contractor is concerned that the plywood will "blow off" in the high winds and injure someone. Anyone have any thoughts, suggestions, alternated methods of protecting the concrete?
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
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Username: david_axt

Post Number: 929
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 03:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

This is contractor's means and methods. Let the contractor decide how best to protect the concrete. That way the contractor is responsible for any damage to material or people.
Edward R. Heinen, CSI, CCS, LEED AP
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Username: edwardheinen

Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 03:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Seems to me it's possible the plywood could blow off in high winds.

I think the use-classification and the anticipated type of traffic is also important as far as the level of protection (and thereby method) required. I would associate plywood with a decorative finish, such as polished concrete.
Richard A. Rosen, CSI, CCS, AIA
Senior Member
Username: rarosen

Post Number: 24
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 03:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I agree with David. You want the concrete protected from damage, its' up to the Contractor to figure out how best to meet your requirements.
Robin E. Snyder
Senior Member
Username: robin

Post Number: 142
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 03:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The specs call for plywood... we are all working together to try to come up with a viable alternative, so, if anyone has any suggestions...
Edward R. Heinen, CSI, CCS, LEED AP
Intermediate Member
Username: edwardheinen

Post Number: 4
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 03:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

What if you just deleted the requirement for plywood and left the protection method up to the builder?
Anonymous
 
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 03:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Put pavers down to act as ballast for the plywood, in accordance with Dow's technical paper on the subject.
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED™ AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 667
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 04:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

If the concrete is not yet placed, consider placing a slab 1/2 inch or so less thick than required and finish it with a cementitious top (that can be sealed and left exposed) after construction has finished. No need to protect the concrete that will be covered.
David Axt, AIA, CCS, CSI
Senior Member
Username: david_axt

Post Number: 930
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 05:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Robin,

Where is the concrete floor located? Slab on grade? 15th floor of a high rise?

Most of the contractors around here use cheap untempered 1/4 inch hardboard with duct taped seams. If you are protecting stained or colored concrete, the covering will affect the final finish outcome.
Anne Whitacre, FCSI CCS
Senior Member
Username: awhitacre

Post Number: 665
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 05:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have also found that no contractor wants to be responsible for protecting concrete surfaces for the next year of construction -- its an impossible task. On every project that was "supposed to be " like this, we approved a thin colored topping for the concrete, and that was applied like the finish flooring -- at the last minute. I don't think the plywood/hardboard method is feasible if you want to use the concrete floor as your finished floor. you're interfering with the contractor's staging area, and the plywood can warp, which causes a safety hazard on the job site.

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