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David Oglesby, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
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Username: wdeo_specs

Post Number: 5
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 05:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Many of the architects I write specs for create a drawing summarizing the various code provisions and how they have complied. I have one who wants their "Code Summary" bound in the specs. Where would you suggest it be located? 014113 Codes seems the most appropriate. Other thoughts?
Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
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Username: specman

Post Number: 555
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 05:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

David:

That seems appropriate. However, one word of caution for your architect:

Although the building doesn't indicate where the code data is to be provided, drawings are the preferred location; not from a building official's point of view, but from a renovating architect's point of view. Sadly, most owners that I've worked with in the past will retain their drawings, but the specifications are nowhere to be found.

If the code data were in the specifications, the architect preparing the design for renovation of and/or addition to the original building will have to re-evaluate the entire building--assuming what code was applicable at the time. Having the code data available will save the architect hours of code research and analysis.

Now, your client might not care about the problems the future architect may face, but who knows, the owner may return to him for the renovation work--and now he has to recall what he did if he didn't keep a copy of the project manual.
Ron Beard CCS
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Post Number: 230
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 05:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

As a specifier, do you want to be the one responsible for any errors, omissions, or out-of-date entries in the list?
rm beard ccs (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 05:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

As a specifier, do you want to be the one responsible for any errors, omissions, or out-of-date entries in the list?
Edward R. Heinen, CSI, CCS, LEED AP
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Username: edwardheinen

Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 06:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I have used Section 014100 - Regulatory Requirements, which identifies work related to Section 109 and Chapter 17 of the IBC. I put a listing of applicable codes here.

I think there are a lot more code-related items that are specified, but not typically part of the basic code analysis the "drawings-only" architects put on the drawings. I look things up in the code as part of my work in order to specify appropriately; and because I'm an architect with obligations to the health safety and welfare of the public.

Either way, code analyis should be done by a properly qualified and experienced architect.
Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI
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Username: rliebing

Post Number: 729
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 06:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

You may find the information in this link of some interest. It is a monograph done for CSI in 1992, [but still valid and viable today]and goes into spec language and inserts in regard to building and other codes. See suggested Section at end of narrative.
Enjoy!

http://wiki.csinet.org/index.php?le=Regulatory_Requirements
Wayne Yancey
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Username: wyancey

Post Number: 382
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 04:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ralph,

I am in the link you provided but do not see the suggested Section at the end of the narrative.

Help?
Sheldon Wolfe
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Post Number: 287
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 06:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

It's http://wiki.csinet.org/index.php?title=Regulatory_Requirements
Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI
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Username: rliebing

Post Number: 731
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 06:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

My apologies, Wayne and all, just clicked at the wrong time and the wrong link resulted.

Thanks, Sheldon for the correction-- you are most kind and helpful
Wayne Yancey
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Username: wyancey

Post Number: 383
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 11:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks Sheldon and Ralph.
Kenneth C. Crocco
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Username: kcrocco

Post Number: 113
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 11:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

You may want to consider what the documents are used for. It has been brought to my attention that the code sheets at the beginning of the project set of drawings are used for permitting processes, but not always included for bidding and construction. This is information needed by code officials to process a permit. There is a section 00 31 43 Permit Application, including information required to obtain a permit. If the information is for permit only, you may consider this section.
David Oglesby, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
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Username: wdeo_specs

Post Number: 6
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 08:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Thanks for the responses. This "Code Summary" was created by the Architect - I am just binding it in the specs at his direction. I opted to locate it in 00365 (003145) "Code Summary" (thanks to Kenneth's comment) since it really pertains to the permitting process as an aid to the AHJ to convey the Architect's interpretation of the code and how he is in compliance.

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