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Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI
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Username: rliebing

Post Number: 564
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 09:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

INTERESTING ITEM REGARDING SUPPLIERS' DISCLAIMER IN QUOTES.

www.constructionclaims.com/issues/5_10/court_opinions/1133-1.html
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 517
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ralph, the full text is unavailable to non-subscribers, unless you pay $5 per view. Would you be able to provide additional information (although just the one-liner is quite an informative grabber) - "Disclaimers in a price quotation do not trump a supplier’s contractual duty to furnish materials that meet the specifications or supply requirements of a project."
Ron Beard CCS
Senior Member
Username: rm_beard_ccs

Post Number: 175
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

My favorite disclaimer is:

"All similarity between drawings and specifications are purely coincidental."
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wyancey

Post Number: 324
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 03:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Disclaimers from Architect's.

Source: Holloway Consulting Group, THE E-M@IL CONSTRUCTION REPORTER, ISSUE NO. R55

For example, in a recent HCG case, the following unusual language was found in the fixed price construction contract:

"The plans and specifications are complimentary. The contractor is to provide all work shown on the plans, whether or not adequately described in the specifications, and all work described in the specifications whether or not specifically indicated on the plans as if called for by both."

Wait, wait. There is more.

As fundamentally unethical as it may be, attempts are sometimes made to impose responsibility on the contractor for the workability of the design. This may happen whether or not the action is properly predicated on the contract documents via the inclusion of language, such as the following from a recent HCG case:

"The contractor is responsible to furnish whatever is necessary to ensure a complete and properly functioning system, regardless of whether or not shown in the contract documents. It is the intention of this section to have a complete system functioning adequately for its intended purpose. It is the contractor's responsibility to correct materials and equipment if they have not been sized properly, at no additional cost, in order to achieve this purpose."
Phil Kabza
Senior Member
Username: phil_kabza

Post Number: 239
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 03:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

My specifications are occasionally complementary but less frequently complimentary, as we all know they are to address the Contractor.
Sheldon Wolfe
Senior Member
Username: sheldon_wolfe

Post Number: 244
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 04:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

The "plans and specifications are complimentary..." clause is not at all unusual; it occurs in the AIA general conditions (spelled correctly, of course).
Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI
Senior Member
Username: rliebing

Post Number: 565
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 04:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Well, Wayne, guess you're in the right "court"!!!!

Couldn't resist that one!

Incidentally, I have gone to the court's web site but have not been able to locate the decision. Would think it may have come before the first of the year.
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wyancey

Post Number: 325
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 05:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Ralph,

I am in the AD(vantage) court and have just served up an ACE.
Jim Brittell
Senior Member
Username: jwbrittell

Post Number: 44
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 01:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I attended a job site meeting, and on the wall of the conference room was a sign that says,

"The building shown in these plans is generic.

Your building may vary."

Truth in advertising.....
Dave Metzger
Senior Member
Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 238
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 01:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Speaking of truth in advertising...

At the gysm where I used to work out, there was a local contractor's project manager who had a T-shirt that read "We're slow, but we're expensive."

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