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Dave Metzger
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Username: davemetzger

Post Number: 293
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 09:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

We are working on a project overseas that is being designed to IBC 2006, with specifications based on MasterFormat 2004, although it will include a mix of European, British, and US products.

One of these products is a fire curtain. This is a vertical coiling curtain, similar to a coiling fire shutter, except the curtain is a metal-reinforced glass fiber fabric instead of steel slats.

What would be a reasonable section number under which to specify this? It's not a window treatment so the Division 12 "curtains" section wouldn't suit, nor would 104400 Fire Protection Specialties. I'm leaning toward a number within 083300 Coiling Doors and Grilles (although it really isn't a "door"). The closest similar number I can find is 083513.23 Foldinfg Fire Doors (like WonDor) although the product is vertically coling and not folding
Bill DuBois (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 10:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Dave,

I mostly agree with your logic and agree that the fire curtain is protecting an "opening" and belongs in Division 08. However, since it is "coiling" and not "folding" I feel it fits better into 08 33 23. I don't think it is as important to get hung up on the fact that it's not a door for passage. Perhaps you could use the term "shutter" in lieu of "door."
Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP
Senior Member
Username: specman

Post Number: 700
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 10:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Dave, I would agree that 08 33 00 is the best choice. Maybe you can create a new Level 3 number and title: 08 33 43 "Overhead Coiling Fire Shutter."
Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEEDŽ AP SCIP Affiliate
Senior Member
Username: lynn_javoroski

Post Number: 813
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 10:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Or 08 33 29 Overhead Coiling Fire Shutter (keeping it with "overhead"). What about those overhead coiling shutters at elevator entrances? Where did they wind up?
Wayne Yancey
Senior Member
Username: wayne_yancey

Post Number: 121
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

These special doors are smoke-containment or smoke-control doors. The one that comes to mind is Smoke Guard.

They are overhead coiling but are not shutters in the strict sence.

Perhaps 08 34 76 - SMOKE CONTROL DOOR ASSEMBLIES

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