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Author Message Marc C Chavez Senior Member Username: mchavez Post Number: 328 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 01:16 pm:    I know. I know. But maybe there is one I don't know about. The structure being designed will be close to the ground and kids now-a-days... Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman Post Number: 678 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 01:35 pm:    How about GKD Metal Fabrics? George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: geverding Post Number: 449 Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 03:21 pm:    Kevlar Correctional Fabric reportedly can resist low-energy knife attack. Anonymous   Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 03:31 pm:    Isn't "low-energy knife attack" mutually exclusive? Anonymous   Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 03:37 pm:    Can't be mutually exclusive, it came directly from "Military Intelligence"! Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 107 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 03:52 pm:    Plastic butter knife wield by a lethargic inmate after a frontal labotomy. William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS Senior Member Username: wpegues Post Number: 755 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 04:00 pm:    You guys need someone dealing with edged and point weapons on a day to day basis. Fencing is my sport, all our clothing is a mix of Kevlar and ballistic resistant nylons. Its not that "low energy knife attack" is not mutually exclusive, its redundant. All hand held attacks are considered low energy. So, unless you are firing a knife through some form of projectile system, its all low energy. I am not quite sure if there is enough force behind a thrown knife to consider it a high energy knife attack or not. I don't think it gets to that level of force. Swords are also considered low energy attacks. So is a hammer to the head... up to a certain size hammer. Force and mass combine for total energy in the delivery. A sledge hammer blow from John Henry might be a high energy attack. All you couch potatoes have to learn to think outside the chip bag. High energy is not getting up to change the channels vs using the tv remote. High energy channel changing would be shooting the tv to turn it off -grin! So, the term comes from the special office of 'Repeated Redundant Terminology'. Still within Military Intelligence though -grin! William George A. Everding, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: geverding Post Number: 450 Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 04:08 pm:    "Low Energy Knife Attack" was from the manufacturer's literature, so I disavow any credit for that redundancy. I barely have enough energy, low or otherwise, to check for my own mispelling misstakes. Bob Woodburn, RA CSI CCS CCCA LEED AP Senior Member Username: bwoodburn Post Number: 266 Registered: 01-2005 Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 04:16 pm:    "Repeated Redundant Terminology"? If there's anything I can't stand, it's terminology that's redundant, superfluous and unnecessary... Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 109 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 04:24 pm:    Bob, Sometimes, generally, always, as a rule, I agree. William C. Pegues, FCSI, CCS Senior Member Username: wpegues Post Number: 756 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 04:28 pm:    Their motto: Say it as many times and in as many places as possible and always use a different variant of the keyword. Redundancy is not duplication. To be truly redundant is to be repeatedly creative in as many ways as possible without repeating yourself. To obtain the ultimate in redundancy is to ascend up the up ramp and look upon the glowing orb of the spherical essence of overall universal completeness in its most purest of concentrated forms. Whatever. William Philip R. Carpenter AIA Senior Member Username: philip_carpenter Post Number: 25 Registered: 08-2008 Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 04:31 pm:    "All you couch potatoes have to learn to think outside the chip bag." awesome i will certainly use that phrase at the next inevitable opportune moment thank you Mr. P.