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Author Message Anonymous   Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 01:48 am:    Anyone knows what this is referring to in regards to metal fabrications? Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman Post Number: 636 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 02:00 am:    Are they referring to T-shaped sections cut from wide flange sections? Anonymous   Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 02:17 am:    comment from client review of section 05500 in regards to shop primer for ferrous metal - comment: "all T-metal to be painted". David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: davidcombs Post Number: 269 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 08:11 am:    Anon.: Do not automatically assume the owner is using correct or current or industry standard terminology; "T-metal" may indeed be an outdated colloquialism, the meaning of which only they would be familiar. Ask them for the clarification. (I once had a client who insisted on refering to reinforcing steel as "re-barb.") John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: bunzick Post Number: 874 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 09:16 am:    The re-barb was used on the same project with the steel joyces. Ralph Liebing, RA, CSI Senior Member Username: rliebing Post Number: 823 Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 09:41 am:    Along with the colyoums, masonnary, misc. orn and linseed earl. Jerome J. Lazar, RA, CCS, CSI, SCIP Senior Member Username: lazarcitec Post Number: 543 Registered: 05-2003 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 09:44 am:    this is starting to sound like one of those typo threads - so does anyone know what "T metal" is? John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: bunzick Post Number: 876 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 09:49 am:    I have no idea--I think you'll have to ask its author. Anonymous   Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 09:53 am:    I did - his smart ass answer - "what u don't know?"...god how i hate clients!!! Bob Woodburn, RA CSI CCS CCCA LEED AP Senior Member Username: bwoodburn Post Number: 235 Registered: 01-2005 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:09 am:    "T metal" -- Terne metal? Temporary metal? Temperature steel? John Bunzick, CCS, CCCA, LEED AP Senior Member Username: bunzick Post Number: 877 Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:12 am:    Eat humble pie, tell him or her you've never heard the term and appreciate all opportunities to learn something new. Then, when you hang up the phone, laugh your a-- off at his answer. Anonymous   Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:15 am:    T-Metal is obviously Titanium and the Owner said he wants it painted, so spec it that way. Did he say if he wanted it field painted or shop painted with a Kynar? It's his money. Bottom line...smart ass answers don't help anyone. :-} Wayne Yancey Senior Member Username: wayne_yancey Post Number: 33 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:27 am:    T-metal is the bling worn by Mr. T. or Architectural treads and nosings from Safe-T-Metal Co., Inc. or Don't Metal With Evil Bob Woodburn, RA CSI CCS CCCA LEED AP Senior Member Username: bwoodburn Post Number: 236 Registered: 01-2005 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:54 am:    I emailed a friend with 50+ years of experience in engineering, construction and design, and got this reply: "We googled T metal and found a company by that name. Types of metals go by T22, T23, T24 etc. We have not heard of T metal as such." Ronald L. Geren, AIA, CSI, CCS, CCCA, SCIP Senior Member Username: specman Post Number: 637 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 11:13 am:    Tell him that you have consulted with over a half dozen experienced architects and specifiers about this item and none of them know what he means by "T metal." Then, when he finally gives you his answer, asked him if he wants a "PVDF coating" or another "HP coating." David R. Combs, CSI, CCS, CCCA Senior Member Username: davidcombs Post Number: 270 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 11:40 am:    Along with "tee handle," "tee joint," and of course - "tee square," my Dictionary of Architecture and Construction (Harris, third edition) lists "tee iron:" tee iron 1. A flat T-shaped piece of heavy sheet metal having pre-drilled countersunk holes; screwed to a joint in wood construction in order to provide reinforcement. 2. A section of steel T-beam. Anonymous   Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 12:12 pm:    this is why i posted anonymous - now my client says he meant "F Metal" which would refer to Ferrous Metal, apparently he had not gotten to Section 09900 otherwise he would not have asked this question to begin with - my apologies - thanks to all who responded. James M. Sandoz, AIA, CSI, CDT, LEED AP Senior Member Username: jsandoz Post Number: 34 Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:45 am:    Have strength and patience, Anonymous. Your client sounds like one of those who will cause the heel of your hand to strike your forehead many times over the course of your relationship. We have all had these. Someday you will look back on this and laugh (probably). Lynn Javoroski CSI CCS LEED™ AP SCIP Affiliate Senior Member Username: lynn_javoroski Post Number: 756 Registered: 07-2002 Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:48 am:    Or, if you hit your head often and hard enough, you may be laughing all the time...